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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=DE link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ay Pirates,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Seems, that there are still some intellectual and emotional resources left within the movement. Resources, that better should not be bended in bureaucracy or formalities.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I never understood the goal, the sense and the concept of PPI. So I still am just watching, what happens and what is going on. Since that, it seems to be a platform for two types of people: The ones who want to obtain power, control over the movement, reputation, remarkable celebritiy and the ones who just want to communicate and exchange what they are thinking about politically. Was there ever a goal the movement definitely wanted to achieve?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think, what we can do: make it a platform just for pirates who want to find out, what we have in common and what we want to achieve in the future. What is our political vision of the world? What are the values, we share, what is our common ideology and what common interpretation and view of political philosophy do we share? Do we have a common intellectual basis and interpretation of political buzzwords like “Socialism”, “Communism”, “Liberalism”, “Feudalism”, “Fascism”, “Nazism”, “Radicalism”, “Conservatism”, “Anarchism”, “Anonysm”, “Neo-Conservatism”, “Neo-feudalism”, Neo-Liberalism”, “Capitalism” and “Anti-Capitalism”.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Inside a state with a quite homogenic history it is more or less easy to get a common interpretation, inside bigger states or federations like Germany, Spain, Italy, UK, which do not have a common origin, where different nationalities still exist, or in states where Immigrants did not really merge to a common identity, like Argentina, it is hard enough to define a common view and interpretation of those political basics. On top: Not in every country there is enough investment in political formation at school or universities and political education and formation very often is just a topic for a few elites, often especially those elites who are formed to rule and govern companies and the administration. They just get this knowledge to learn how to dominate and not how to create <u>and</u> to maintain a democratic system based on freedom/liberty, equality, solidarity, civil rights, human rights, transparency, openness and all the real and virtual tools we propose to create and use as “commons”, in the sense, that the related infrastructures are common property and not legalized base for privatized public profit partnerships.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So I don’t understand how PPI can help in this. My first intent was to get a membership in a international pirate party and my disappointment was pretty hard, when I realized that it is just a formalized functional board without a perceivable common goal.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Are there still pirates who want to realize something or will shit dropping and blaming guilty still be acceptable on this platform?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’m willing to ban it and to close communication to everybody who keeps doing this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thomas Blechschmidt<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bavaria<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pp.international.general-bounces@lists.pirateweb.net [mailto:pp.international.general-bounces@lists.pirateweb.net] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Enrique Herrera Noya<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 11. März 2015 14:07<br><b>An:</b> Pirate Parties International -- General Talk<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [pp.int.general] Don't you think we should stand up and actually do something?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN>my two cents,<br>in Chile at the end of last December (2014), we use <a href="http://change.org">change.org</a> (maximum 40 recipients), to apply for the freezing of the regulatory plan of the city councilors (or aldermen), took advantage of inform neighbors ...<br>"We did burn twitter and facebook", 2600 email arrive to every councilor<br>As a result:<br>we reference us as social leaders<br>the city council is attentive to our proposals and demands<br>constitute an NGO neighbors and we will advise the municipality<br><br>other use we gave <a href="http://change.org">change.org</a>, was with a draft law<br>"media law," we get from room was returned to committee<br>with only 600 signatures ... (email)<br><br><br>it could habiltar similar to <a href="http://change.org">change.org</a> system without much restriction<br>reach by email MEPs ....<br><br>P-)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>2015-03-11 4:34 GMT-03:00 Amelia Andersdotter <<a href="mailto:teirdes@gmail.com" target="_blank">teirdes@gmail.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On 03/05/15 11:43, <a href="mailto:hyazinthe@emailn.de">hyazinthe@emailn.de</a> wrote:<br>> Hi folks,<br>><br>> Another thought:<br>> We as the european pirates can't disappear and every 5 years suddenly appear 3 months before EU elections and say "vote for us!",<br>> Well, we can, but than we don't need to wonder, that noone knows us. Currently key decision on our core topics are being made in the<br>> worst thinkable way. Why can't afford to be that quiet !<br>><br>> Who's with me?<br><br>Sure, I see your point. I think your actions to call MEPs and write them<br>e-mails are great! More Pirates should do this locally, and perhaps as<br>social events!!! :-)<br><br>I have sketched postcards that can be sent to MEPs to remind them of the<br>copyright consultation. Think Amnesty-style. This is easier for those<br>pirates that have some form of common money to use.<br><br>Another idea I had, although this is practically more difficult and much<br>more demanding in resources of time and money, is to match geographical<br>origin of consultation responses with the nationality of MEPs, and then<br>simply transmit one citizen response to question 80 (the open-ended<br>question, where most citizens have provided short essays detailing their<br>relationship to copyright at large) to every MEP per day. For the German<br>responses alone, this would take three years(!) but for some of the<br>smaller member states it would take less than a month (although not much<br>less than a month :P).<br><br>One issue which needs to be dealt with in Germany is telecoms<br>competition: how to get municipalities involved in a competitive<br>telecoms strategy for the entire country. This is more or less happening<br>in some smaller municipalities in northern Germany. BUGLAS is the<br>national organisation for locally owned infrastructure. Austria shares<br>similar developments, with rural communities being increasingly agitated<br>that only the incumbents benefit from anti-competitive policies and at<br>the expense of citizen wellfare. I was thinking local petition,<br>targetting local politicians requesting them to be competitive - I've<br>tried this in Sweden, and the support for competitive markets and free<br>choice is over-whelming here, and the ears of housing associations in<br>equal measure deaf. I'll report back in a few months when I can more<br>accurately assess the outcome.<br><br>best regards,<br><br>Amelia<br><br>><br>> Greetings,<br>> Tobias Lechner<br>><br>><br>> ____________________________________________________<br>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br>> <a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general" target="_blank">http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general</a><br><br><br>____________________________________________________<br>Pirate Parties International - General Talk<br><a href="mailto:pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net">pp.international.general@lists.pirateweb.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general" target="_blank">http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><br>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.decurauma.cl" target="_blank">http://www.decurauma.cl</a> <br><a href="http://www.xn--placilladepeuelas-qxb.cl" target="_blank">http://www.placilladepeñuelas.cl</a><br><a href="http://www.ansol.cl" target="_blank">http://www.ansol.cl</a><br><a href="http://www.aceesol.cl" target="_blank">http://www.aceesol.cl</a><br><a href="http://www.partidopirata.cl" target="_blank">http://www.partidopirata.cl</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>