[pp.int.general] pp.international.general Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2
Core TX
coretx at gmail.com
Sun Dec 2 00:02:59 CET 2007
As peter already told us, there was a one hour communication session.
One of the fruitfull idea's that is created after the IRC chat is the
following;
As we know, the Belgium partie does not exist.
( There was a empty/dead french only frontpage, which is squated by www
spammers,so don't forget to delete the link if you like google status )
In belgium, they speak dutch, french and german.
Although there are no belgian members right now, we can create a website for
them.
In 3 different languages.
This way, we can make progress on many different fronts.
1. Improve communication between country's
2. Translate material in all mayor languages.
3. Create a foundation for a foreign party, with acces to brussels.
4. Reduce biz overhead
Right now, I would like to know who whant's to participate/cooperate on this
project.
( German,dutch, french and english/american )
Arrr,
Core-TX
Interim-Charman
Pirate Partie of the Netherlands.
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> 1. Re: invitiation to Berlin on 26./27.1 (Findeton)
> 2. The 3 C's (Andrew Norton)
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> 4. Re: The 3 C's (Andrew Norton)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 12:57:07 +0100
> From: Findeton <redeadlink at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] invitiation to Berlin on 26./27.1
> To: "Pirate Parties International -- General Talk"
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> Hi
>
> This is not official yet, but from what we've spoken on the spanish
> mailing
> list, we want to attend the meeting and we're thinking on sending 2 people
> from our party. Manolo is a little bit busy at this moment but i'm sure
> he,
> as the official international relations representative of the spanish
> pp,
> will share more details soon.
>
> F?lix Robles,
>
> member of the Spanish Pirate Party
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2007 3:59 PM, Jens Seipenbusch <pxkqq6z9-ppdml at yahoo.de> wrote:
>
> > Dear Pirates,
> >
> > I'm happy to announce the second international meeting of the pirate
> > parties now for the 26./27.1.2008 !
> > Although our voting proposal on
> > http://int.piratenpartei.de/International_Conference_1/2008
> > didnt result in the perfect choice for everyone, we hope for your
> > understanding that we chose the date, that seems most suitable and was
> > preferred by the most people.
> > We hope that the countries which disagreed with that date will find a
> > representative, that is able to attend the meeting.
> > Most of the organizing will be published on the mentioned Wiki-Page. On
> > the same weekend the election takes place, where our regional chapter of
> > Hesse runs for!
> > Nevertheless we hope to stem both the election campaign and the
> > Conference.
> >
> > Please direct your questions regarding the conference to Jan Huwald or
> > myself.
> >
> > best regards,
> > Jens
> > --
> > Jens Seipenbusch
> > chariman
> > Piratenpartei Deutschland
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________________________
> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 18:33:26 +0100
> From: Andrew Norton <andrew.norton at pirate-party.us>
> Subject: [pp.int.general] The 3 C's
> To: Pirate Parties International General Talk
> <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
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> Ok people, there's a flurry of new laws, position, potential laws,
> statements and so on around the world right now. This could be considered a
> 'pivotal point' for our struggles. We need to concentrate, therefore, on the
> three C's:
>
> COMMUNICATION - with each other
> COOPERATION - between members of the different parties
> COMMUNICATION - between the parties, and the media and citizens.
>
>
> We have all these funky 'new' methods of communication - Ims, IRC, email -
> and yet most of us don't seem to be using it to the full. We need to work on
> things to make things work better. Myself, and a member of the duthc party
> spent an hour or so yesterday working with the 'main' french party over
> what's gone on there, in IRC. It wasn't as big a success as we'd hoped, but
> it's something to work from. I'd like to propose then, a monthly meeting of
> representatives from each national party, online, in whatever medium is most
> acceptable (although it seems the options are limited to IRC, Skype, and
> maybe mumble). The aim is to keep everyone informed of whats going on,
> giving others ideas we can work on and adapt for ourselves.
>
> I'd also suggest that we really need someone who just works fulltime on
> ppi, keeping contact lists of the national party officials, coordinating and
> leading these meetings, and encouraging the spread and formation of national
> parties.
>
> We are all in this together, globally. We need to work that way better
> too.
>
> Andrew Norton
> PP-USA
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:13:53 +0100
> From: " B?a?ej Kaczorowski " <blazej.kaczorowski at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] The 3 C's
> To: "Pirate Parties International -- General Talk"
> <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
> Message-ID:
> <2865bc640712010813y5b425680qa63da2ea2ebd510f at mail.gmail.com>
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> Thats a good idea :) I will lokk for some1 in Poland to work fulltime
> for PPI oki?
>
> 2007/12/1, Andrew Norton <andrew.norton at pirate-party.us>:
> > Ok people, there's a flurry of new laws, position, potential laws,
> statements and so on around the world right now. This could be considered a
> 'pivotal point' for our struggles. We need to concentrate, therefore, on the
> three C's:
> >
> > COMMUNICATION - with each other
> > COOPERATION - between members of the different parties
> > COMMUNICATION - between the parties, and the media and citizens.
> >
> >
> > We have all these funky 'new' methods of communication - Ims, IRC, email
> - and yet most of us don't seem to be using it to the full. We need to work
> on things to make things work better. Myself, and a member of the duthc
> party spent an hour or so yesterday working with the 'main' french party
> over what's gone on there, in IRC. It wasn't as big a success as we'd hoped,
> but it's something to work from. I'd like to propose then, a monthly meeting
> of representatives from each national party, online, in whatever medium is
> most acceptable (although it seems the options are limited to IRC, Skype,
> and maybe mumble). The aim is to keep everyone informed of whats going on,
> giving others ideas we can work on and adapt for ourselves.
> >
> > I'd also suggest that we really need someone who just works fulltime on
> ppi, keeping contact lists of the national party officials, coordinating and
> leading these meetings, and encouraging the spread and formation of national
> parties.
> >
> > We are all in this together, globally. We need to work that way better
> too.
> >
> > Andrew Norton
> > PP-USA
> >
> > ____________________________________________________
> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 18:57:02 +0100
> From: Andrew Norton <andrew.norton at pirate-party.us>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] The 3 C's
> To: Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
> Message-ID: <dcdc3a34adfec879c5ed75daf444e502 at localhost>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Eep - sorry, perhaps I wasn't 100% clear, because Floyd made the same
> mistake to - One person working for the PPI, not for a national party. I'm
> sorry if it seemed like I was suggesting one person from each national party
> to work with the PPI - thats generally the job of the international
> co-ordinator/relations person in the party. I just meant one person, maybe
> two who did nothing but concentrate on the international stuff, rather than
> their own national stuff too.
>
> Right now, Andy kinda does that with the news on the site, but it needs
> everything else too.
>
> Andrew
> PP-USA
>
> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:13:53 +0100, "B?a?ej Kaczorowski" <
> blazej.kaczorowski at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thats a good idea :) I will lokk for some1 in Poland to work fulltime
> > for PPI oki?
> >
> > 2007/12/1, Andrew Norton <andrew.norton at pirate-party.us>:
> >> Ok people, there's a flurry of new laws, position, potential laws,
> > statements and so on around the world right now. This could be
> considered
> > a 'pivotal point' for our struggles. We need to concentrate, therefore,
> on
> > the three C's:
> >>
> >> COMMUNICATION - with each other
> >> COOPERATION - between members of the different parties
> >> COMMUNICATION - between the parties, and the media and citizens.
> >>
> >>
> >> We have all these funky 'new' methods of communication - Ims, IRC,
> email
> > - and yet most of us don't seem to be using it to the full. We need to
> work
> > on things to make things work better. Myself, and a member of the duthc
> > party spent an hour or so yesterday working with the 'main' french party
> > over what's gone on there, in IRC. It wasn't as big a success as we'd
> > hoped, but it's something to work from. I'd like to propose then, a
> > monthly meeting of representatives from each national party, online, in
> > whatever medium is most acceptable (although it seems the options are
> > limited to IRC, Skype, and maybe mumble). The aim is to keep everyone
> > informed of whats going on, giving others ideas we can work on and adapt
> > for ourselves.
> >>
> >> I'd also suggest that we really need someone who just works fulltime on
> > ppi, keeping contact lists of the national party officials, coordinating
> > and leading these meetings, and encouraging the spread and formation of
> > national parties.
> >>
> >> We are all in this together, globally. We need to work that way better
> > too.
> >>
> >> Andrew Norton
> >> PP-USA
> >>
> >> ____________________________________________________
> >> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> >> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >>
> > ____________________________________________________
> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 19:37:55 +0100
> From: "Robert Mitwicki" <mitfik at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] The 3 C's
> To: "Pirate Parties International -- General Talk"
> <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
> Message-ID:
> <637838a10712011037u7e22c060l83327fb431f7541f at mail.gmail.com>
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> I think one person can be not enough, maybe we can make some kind of
> Ministry of Foreign Affairs ? One person from one country ?
>
>
> 2007/12/1, Andrew Norton <andrew.norton at pirate-party.us>:
> >
> > Eep - sorry, perhaps I wasn't 100% clear, because Floyd made the same
> > mistake to - One person working for the PPI, not for a national party.
> I'm
> > sorry if it seemed like I was suggesting one person from each national
> party
> > to work with the PPI - thats generally the job of the international
> > co-ordinator/relations person in the party. I just meant one person,
> maybe
> > two who did nothing but concentrate on the international stuff, rather
> than
> > their own national stuff too.
> >
> > Right now, Andy kinda does that with the news on the site, but it needs
> > everything else too.
> >
> > Andrew
> > PP-USA
> >
> > On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:13:53 +0100, "B?a?ej Kaczorowski" <
> > blazej.kaczorowski at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Thats a good idea :) I will lokk for some1 in Poland to work fulltime
> > > for PPI oki?
> > >
> > > 2007/12/1, Andrew Norton <andrew.norton at pirate-party.us>:
> > >> Ok people, there's a flurry of new laws, position, potential laws,
> > > statements and so on around the world right now. This could be
> > considered
> > > a 'pivotal point' for our struggles. We need to concentrate,
> therefore,
> > on
> > > the three C's:
> > >>
> > >> COMMUNICATION - with each other
> > >> COOPERATION - between members of the different parties
> > >> COMMUNICATION - between the parties, and the media and citizens.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> We have all these funky 'new' methods of communication - Ims, IRC,
> > email
> > > - and yet most of us don't seem to be using it to the full. We need to
> > work
> > > on things to make things work better. Myself, and a member of the
> duthc
> > > party spent an hour or so yesterday working with the 'main' french
> party
> > > over what's gone on there, in IRC. It wasn't as big a success as we'd
> > > hoped, but it's something to work from. I'd like to propose then, a
> > > monthly meeting of representatives from each national party, online,
> in
> > > whatever medium is most acceptable (although it seems the options are
> > > limited to IRC, Skype, and maybe mumble). The aim is to keep everyone
> > > informed of whats going on, giving others ideas we can work on and
> adapt
> > > for ourselves.
> > >>
> > >> I'd also suggest that we really need someone who just works fulltime
> on
> > > ppi, keeping contact lists of the national party officials,
> coordinating
> > > and leading these meetings, and encouraging the spread and formation
> of
> > > national parties.
> > >>
> > >> We are all in this together, globally. We need to work that way
> better
> > > too.
> > >>
> > >> Andrew Norton
> > >> PP-USA
> > >>
> > >> ____________________________________________________
> > >> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > >> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > >> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> > >>
> > > ____________________________________________________
> > > Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > > pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >
> > ____________________________________________________
> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Robert Mitwicki
> Kontakt:
> jid: mitfik at jabber.org
> e-mail: mitfik at gmail.com
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