[pp.int.general] Communication problem, real or perceived?

Jouni Snellman jounisnellman at gmail.com
Fri Jun 22 13:30:22 CEST 2007


I don´t know about secured areas within the internet, I would not trust them
these days. If there is stuff to write that some people should not see,
maybe it´s better not to write it at all ; ) Jouni

On 6/22/07, Jan Huwald <jh at sotun.de> wrote:
>
> If you are in a hurry, read at least 2.1 and spread the word about!
>
> 1. monthly chat
>
> 1.1 During my (still ongoing) time in the board of the German pirate party
> I
> learned to hate latenight  (open) discussions in IRC. Textchat is
> efficient
> for voting, pasting text and ascii art. It behaves badly if it comes to
> expressing long, complex statements in your foreign language.
>
> 1.2 As we are a global movement the time shift will erase every possible
> time
> for a regular (!) meeting. Therefore I prefer email and urge you to simply
> use it more intensiveley (and think about 2., 4.)
>
> 2. task forces
>
> 2.1 One the Vienna international conference we agreed on starting several
> task
> forces (or international working groups). I think now it is the time to
> get
> them running. I will promote them to the German pirates during our next
> newsletter (approx betwean today and sunday). I will promote the int. wiki
> page http://wiki.pp-international.net/Task_Forces as a concentration point
> for all volunteers. I ask you to do so in your party, too!
>
> 2.2 Task forces should issue monthly reports on their progress
>
> 2.3 Task forces may reduce the neccesarity of getting all int. pirates
> together by splitting up problems.
>
> 3. Re: press releases from the int. pirates: about a board of the int.
> pirates
> we should continue to discuss. A part of this discussion will take place
> within the Legal Team (one of the working groups), especially about
> election
> details and how to form a legal body (or if, at all)
>
> 4. I agree that all parties should paste their press releases and
> important
> movements wihtin their country to this mailinglist. For the later I
> suggest
> regular digest. Hopefully I can motivate somebody to do this for Germany
> ..
> Christoph Leng, how it is about you?
>
> Regards,
> Jan Huwald
> Political Secretary, German Pirate Party
>
> Am Freitag, 22. Juni 2007 06:00:54 schrieb Andrew Norton:
> > I've been looking around, reading around, and it seems to be there is
> some
> > sort of gap in communication. It seems we're all working separately, or
> at
> > least not as cohesively as we should, or could. I've spoken to many of
> you
> > recently (or at least some of you on IRC, and most of those who've
> replied
> > with the 'Jabber of the pirates') and often I get the same question -
> "hows
> > it going in your country" and its one I also have to ask.
> >
> > We're not communicating well between each other, or again, thats my
> > perception. It would be nice, for instance, to know when national groups
> > put out a press release about something (you are putting out press
> releases
> > and stuff, right?)
> >
> > The other thing is there is no real 'private' communication between us
> all.
> > This mailing list is open to anyone that wants to be on it. Whilst that
> > might be great in some aspects, its not so good in others, especially if
> > there's any sort of discussion over anything that might cause
> controversy.
> >
> > What I would like to propose is that we just start talking more, and
> > talking smarter. 1)Some sort of monthly meeting, on IRC, or any other
> > method, between different party members, so we can all keep each other
> > informed about how things are going. 2)Some sort of secured area, just
> for
> > party members, so we can discuss things in private, even if it's just a
> > moderator-approved-join list. 3)That we each announce press releases to
> a
> > list, be it this one, or another one, so we al are kept abreast of each
> > party's breaking news, and can either make support statements or
> whatever
> > may be needed. Maybe even the 'international Pirate Party' issues the
> said
> > releases, in the name of each national party. Dunno how feasible that
> is,
> > but its worth thinking about. I'm more than willing to help out with
> time,
> > and effort. Right now, due to the main composition of the US party
> > supporters, many of our people are otherwise occupied. In addition, the
> > regulations for registering a party here are difficult, and seem
> designed
> > to make forming a party near impossible reason, despite being 'in
> > existence' for almost a year, we'll probably be one of the last party's
> to
> > officially become a political party.
> >
> > Andrew Norton
> > PPUS International Liaison
> >
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