[pp.int.general] 120 Days Left for Utah in the USA

[Jouni Snellman]

In the late 1980s I lived in Sweden for a month or two without their
personal ID number and I can tell you it was a real out-of-this-world
experience. Finally somebody somewhere assigned me a number even though I
never asked for one. One day the number just appeared on some document next
to my name and all of a sudden I was like everyone else - well almost ; )

Was it true that the Swedish bank account numbers were also based on the
personal ID numbers? I remember running around offices, banks and the post
office on payday just trying to get my salary...unbelievable. - Jouni

On 10/19/07, John Nilsson <john.nilsson at piratpartiet.se> wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 20:59 +0200, Rick Falkvinge (Piratpartiet) wrote:
> > > > 4) The signer's full personal ID number (like, mine is 720121-4819:
> > > > 1972, January, 21, 481st baby born on that date, 9 as a checksum
> > > > digit)
> > >
> > > Actually up to 1990 the 4819 means that you were the first boy (first
> > > odd number) born in "Göteborgs och Bohus län" (48-54) (county of
> > > Gothenburg and Bohus?).
> >
> > Right, but I thought that would be to complicate matters unnecessarily
> in
> > that short description. My key point was that we are numbers, not names.
>
> It is intersting though that you can derive all sorts of information
> from that number. You can se if you're an immigrant (i believe they have
> 60 added to the day in month), what sex you are and how many times you
> have had your identity protected (you count the number of P's at the end
> if I'm not misinformed).
>
> Regards,
> John
>
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