[pp.int.general] stop about the EU Constitution!
r.bakels at planet.nl
Wed Apr 23 17:29:37 CEST 2008
> The treaty is evil, and the Pirate Party is a party with strong
> democratic beliefs. We can't be for the Treaty, and are per definition
> against only by believing in democracy.
The confusion is about A treaty versus THE treaty.
THE treaty suffers from a severe democratic deficit.
But people in NL tended to object against ANY treaty, certainly as long as
it was named "constitution".
Beware that some of the people objecting agains ANY treaty are anti-European
nationalists. You know, far right wing people foster nationalism. It is a
frightening perspective in Dutch policitics. Personally, I am fundamentally
pro-European. I could even consider a EU with Ukraine (it is the largest
nation state entirely within the geography of Europe - even slightly larger
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