[pp.int.general] So Piratpartiet does not care about Pirate Manifesto?

[Mary Poppins]

for me, unefortunately, subject interest me and all things about PPI
interest me too, but i don't speack english and nobody translate so i can't
contribute

2008/8/23 Valentin Villenave <v.villenave at gmail.com>

> 2008/8/23 Carlos Ayala <aiarakoa at yahoo.es>:
>
> > So, RIck, stop now torpedoing the Pirate Manifesto -defamating PIRATA in
> the
> > process- and start contributing to it. Regards,
>
> I know I'm not in a good place to take part in this discussion, but if
> I may just throw in a word of peace...
>
> Carlos, I am aware that none of the French Pirates has been
> contributing to the Manifesto for the past months, and I sincerely
> feel terrible about it, since the Manifesto is one of the most
> interesting and exciting projects we have at the moment. You obviously
> have spent much time and energy in it, as well as in inviting and
> encouraging us folks to take part in its writing; however you must
> keep in mind that many of us have to face other issues in our national
> parties and in our personal or professional lives.
>
> Please, please keep that in mind, and do not think that lack of
> participation has to mean a lack of interest.
>
> As for Rick's mention, I think he had obviously not enough time to
> read the drafts, and to pay attention to the writing process. I agree
> his sentence was likely to hurt you, but I do not think he intended
> to, neither do I think that he's "torpedoing" anything: come on, who
> wouldn't be happy to have a nice Pirate Manifesto well-written,
> printed, published, and read everywhere in the world?
>
> Now, to answer Rick's question about the purpose of the Manifesto:
> well, I think that RMS' mail clearly demonstrates what this purpose
> is. MaryPoppins, from the French Parti Pirate, wrote him a few days
> ago just to know if we could include his "Free Software Song" in the
> second installment of our music "Pirate compilation" (the first
> installment of which we have offered you guys a copy at the Berlin
> conference, remember?); he asked us about the Pirate Party, we had a
> short discussion with him, and... _what_ does he do next? _He_ _looks_
> _at_ _the_ _Manifesto_. That is exactly what the Manifesto is for (as
> is the Uppsala declaration, granted): to introduce who we are, what we
> stand for, what we believe in, what we're trying to achieve. Isn't it
> nice?
>
> We were not able _at all_ to attempt the Uppsala meeting (mostly for
> financial reasons, but also because as a teacher I had to be in France
> at the end of June). However, we trust the other parties enough to
> know you guys are no idiots, and therefore we were confident in the
> quality of the work that would be done. I think the Uppsala
> declaration is a good document, and some parts of it could/should
> probably go into the Introduction of the Manifesto when we get there.
> As I told Rick in the other thread, this is not about exclusivity: the
> Manifesto is not aiming to say "let's junk all the crap that has been
> written before and write new stuff from scratch". I don't think there
> is any incompatibility; and I don't think either that already having
> some declarations means we don't have to write a Manifesto -- even if
> this is likely to take months, or even years: hell, just look at how
> much time it took them to write the GPL v3!
>
> So, in a nutshell: please, people, please, play nice and be patient
> with each other.
>
> Cheers,
> Valentin
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