[pp.int.general] PPI platform for EU Election 2009

[Reinier Bakels]

It may help to concentrate on present issues first. #1 imho is the concerted 
action by record companies and their organisations (IFPI, RIAA) to get more 
money from copyright. They campaign, and that calls for a counter-campaign. 
The prime agument against their policy imho is the obvious fact that they 
strive to "rent seeking": make more moeny by influencing the legislator.
Presently the strategy of record companies is to "ask" ISPs to control P2P 
trafic "voluntarily". This avoids impopular criminal actions (as became 
apparent in the US). The mistake is that such an approach requires the ISP 
to make judgements they should not make - but courts. The principle *always* 
has been that communication companies are not responsible for the 
information they transport. Tehy lack both the authorioty and the knowledge 
to make proper judgements if they are "asked" to filter traffic.
reinier
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carlos Ayala Vargas" <aiarakoa at yahoo.es>
To: "Pirate Parties International -- General Talk" 
<pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:00 AM
Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] PPI platform for EU Election 2009


> Any opinions on this?
>
> Carlos Ayala Vargas wrote:
>> Hello:
>>
>> I've proposed for Helsinki to talk about it, about agreeing a joint 
>> platform; as long as -as far as I know- Uppsala Declaration has not been 
>> signed by any pirate parties, we would have no joint platform.
>>
>> I suggest -to be debated during the following month (instead of waiting 
>> until the very Conference and not giving the rest of parties, specially 
>> the EU ones not attending, the chance to participate in such debate)- the 
>> following:
>>
>> - for the core issues:
>> * if we manage to agree the Pirate Manifesto, use it as the basis for 
>> developing our 2009-2014 goals on core issues
>>
>> - for the non-core issues, two options:
>> * if we are able to agree the strategy and protocol for non-core issues, 
>> we would made a common one; this is preferable as would gives us strength 
>> for dealings, though only if we all truly agree -we cannot ask any pirate 
>> party to betray its principles, so while we don't need to fully agree, we 
>> need not to disagree; otherwise, the agreement would be a bad idea-
>> * otherwise, if there is no agreement, each pirate party would have its 
>> MEPs following strategies according to their national pirate parties; 
>> this is only a solution if there is no agreement, as we would lose 
>> strength for dealings; I prefer to have common strategies, however, I 
>> don't want to force anyone to follow mines as well as I don't want anyone 
>> to force me to follow theirs.
>>
>> *Free and voluntary agreement is the only solution, in my opinion, 
>> between peers; and that is what we are within PPI, peers, aren't we?*
>>
>> How do you see this? Regards,
>>
>>  Carlos Ayala
>> 
>> ( Aiarakoa )
>>
>> 
>> Partido Pirata National Board's Chairman
>
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