[pp.int.general] Pirate Manifesto Reloaded

[aloa5]

Carlos Ayala schrieb:
  I will offer following points for finding a compromise or a working
> plattform:
>  >
>  > 1.) Coalitions (as an option) have to be possible
>  > 2.) If the price for a coalition (compromises to be made) is 
> reasonable will be a decision of the PP members in each
>  > country.
>  > 3.) We have do decide *after* an election
> 
> While I appreciate your consenssus efforts :) the thing with that 
> approach is that, instead of being a compact movement, we would may find 
> -e.g., with 8 MPs from 4 countries (not enough to have our own 
> parliamentary group)- 2 MPs from country A having joint greens, 2 MPs 
> from country B having joint communists, 2 MPs from country C having 
> joint 'liberals', and 2 MPs from country D -namely, Spain- staying in 
> non-inscrits; it wouldn't look quite much like a international pirate 
> movement, but a bunch of MPs each one following an own way.


Separate asking does not mean separating in the parliament. But you can 
not act without asking the Pirates anyway.... I don´t know coalitions 
without members having made a voting about a coalition paper. Do you?

So - asking about joining a group after(!) an election would be 
obligatory anyway (or not?). Going to different groups and find out what 
the options for us would be and ask the members. If then swedish Pirates 
would choose another way then spanish or german -- we would have to find 
a way. But to make a decision *before* an election and *before* having 
anything in hand makes not really sense.

Otmar