[pp.int.general] Political Party X (was: Uppsala Declaration)

[Eduardo Robles Elvira]

El Lunes 30 Junio 2008, Amelia Andersdotter escribió:
> It solves one major problem for the Pirate Parties: what we do with
> ourselves in all the other issues. We may only pursue 3 core issues,
> but in any parliament we will still have to work with all the rest of
> the EU-parl-stuff. Potential voters will feel more reassured if we
> have a straight-forward strategy for how we're going to vote in our
> non-issues, rather than if we say "all the rest is up to the personal
> ethics of our delegates".

Excuse me? Have you actually READ the other emails Amelia? It seems to me you 
didn't. Who said that "all the rest is up to the personal ethics of our 
delegates"? Whatever hapened to Liquid Democracy? And in case we don't have a 
final yes or not to the votation, we should abstain. Solved. That was easy. 
Next:

> Also, being in the parliament does not mean we will be able to propose
> changes in EU legislation, rather the contrary. But we can try to make
> sure other parliamentary groups talk about our issues. They will be
> more prone to do so if we listen to them as well. The worst thing that
> can happen to us in the EU-parliament is that we just sit around and
> vote no to things we don't like, and ditch all the rest of the issues.
> We'll just come across as un-serious and lazy (this happened to a
> Swedish party in the last parliament election, Junilistan)

Well if we are not in favor of a legislation why should we say yes? As Carlos 
explained, it will be much worse (and specially in the long-term) if we just 
do whatever others tell us to do in non-core issues. Again, whatever hapened 
to liquid democracy?

-- 
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress
depends on the unreasonable man." (George Bernard Shaw)
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