[pp.int.general] About which german amendments have to be annulled

[Carlos Ayala]

This is what I was talking about, and what Anton perfectly defined as the risks of being "overly flexible".

De: Jens Seipenbusch <seipenbusch at web.de>
Enviado: lunes, 10 de noviembre, 2008 16:43:29

> and thanks alot, that you already split my collective attempt into correct amendments (11-15).

Not at all :)

> I have now gone thru all the amendments

Define now; you mean today, monday, 40 hours after deadline?

> and want to

No room for new amendments -you're re-proposing them after having previously discarded them-, nor for corrections made to amendments actually proposed in time.

Now we can see the effects of being overly flexible; while we're just discussing whether to admit or not amendments that were proposed an hour and a half after deadline, now new amendments and amendment inner changes are proposed 40 hours after deadline; and if these new amendments are admitted, maybe it may happen tomorrow. Are we going to change text to be voted during voting? Are we aware of consequences of such behaviour -I'm not even sure if any of the eligible voters has already started to vote before deciding whether amendments 16th to 18th are going to be admitted (seems they will)-?

I'm sure about one thing: I'm not overly flexible. My promise of accept whatever the representatives decide about amendments 16th to 18th remains -and it seems that, unless last minute changes, the decision will be to admit them-; however, I here and now deny the admision of amendments having been proposed 40 hours after deadline as, in RMS words, notably would alter the voting timeline -specially if any of eligible voters has already started to vote- and would establish a dangerous case-law for future votings. No way.

If anyone tries to force me to accept 40-hour-late amendments, I'd resign from my duties regarding Pirate Manifesto and I'd urge eligible voters to search for a replacement -I hope I'm not going to be called bureaucrat, tyrant, etc (I would answer to that: should have observed agreed rules); we here and now are discussing the 16th-to-18th exception, not discussing to trash amending rules at all-; if such thing is allowed, it would mean that the lesson that Isabel talked about would haven't been learned. Regards,


                                                                   Carlos Ayala
                                                                   ( Aiarakoa )

                                              Partido Pirata National Board's Chairman

P.S.: Unless my duties as responsible of this procedure become denied, I proceed to annul last-minute recovered amendments, as well as discard last-minute changes to valid amendments -I'm going to move the newly written arguments in valid amendments into their respective discussion pages-.



      
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