[pp.int.general] Pirate Manifesto: Finally, amendments showdown

[Eduardo RE]

Hello people,

El Martes 11 Noviembre 2008, Max Moritz Sievers escribió:
> > *We believe that the state is destructive to individual liberty and
> > social harmony, and that only the abolition of coercive authority can
> > solve our political, economic and national problems. Anarchy is the
> > ideal, and it is to this end that we do aspire and work.*


The Pirate Manifiesto should be something common we all agree. I don't agree at 
all with the above statement. Maybe the pirates who crossed the sea would have 
agreed, but we are not that kind of pirates. I value having some laws we all 
agree with, etc. 

We are not all anarchists, we are not all socialists, we are not all liberals 
etc. We are all just pirates, and there may well be pirates of all colors and 
it's ok because we share a common view in copyright and other topics, but 
nothing else. We shouldn't be clasified as left-wing or right-wing, nor 
anarchists for that matter. And much less so in the pirate manifiesto, which 
should only contain things we all agree with, a common ground.

> I assume you haven't read the list of arguments:
> http://int.piratenpartei.de/Pirate_Manifesto_Eighth_Amendment
>
> | If you are not familiar with this social and political idea, you should
> | take some time reading about it and thinking about it---I question our
> | end goal, so I believe this is the most important amendment.
> | [...]
> | I think most pirates are unknowingly anarchists---and since I propose
> | anarchy as an ideal, it is safe to guess we will never experience it
> | anyway. So fear of anarchy should be no obstacle to vote for this
> | amendment.

Anarchy is your ideal. Socialism is other's people ideal, capitalism is 
other's people ideal. Please don't try to impose your ideal to the rest of the 
pirates by saying "well, you're pirates so even if you don't know it, you're 
actually anarchist". Belive me I am not (but I am a Pirate).

Greetings,
    Eduardo Robles Elvira, member of Partido Pirata (Spain).
-- 
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress
depends on the unreasonable man." (George Bernard Shaw)
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