[pp.int.general] Pirate Manifesto: Finally, amendments showdown

[Max Moritz Sievers]

Sending this again as it was cutted when I recieved it.

Christian Hufgard wrote:
> Zitat von Mirco da Silva <mirco.da.silva at piracy-international.org>:
> > Christian Hufgard schrieb:
> >> Yes, some pirates are anarchists,
> >
> > Look into history.
> > Pirates never obeyed to the laws of any state.
>
> Except those, who had letters of marque and were nothing more than
> sailing mercenaries.

| If you remain on the ground of right, you remain in -- self-opinionatedness.
| The other cannot give you your right; he cannot "mete out right" to you. He
| who has might has -- right; if you have not the former, neither have you the
| latter. Is this wisdom so hard to attain?
-- Max Stirner: The Ego and Its Own
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Ego_and_Its_Own/My_Power

> > The only rules they accept and follow are their own pirate codex varying
> > an all autonomous units (aka pirate ships or fleets, projects - u name
> > it) In fact they were and are blamed to be the enemy number one to the
> > civilization of the empires and their global (east india) trading
> > companies. Guess why.
>
> I think, that you won't accept "burning down ships, killing the
> sailors and stealing their goods" as another possible reason?

No, I don't. "Burning down ships, killing the sailors and stealing their 
goods" is common practice in war -- and rightly so.

> > To prefer individual and decentralized freedom instead of collective
> > centralized tyranny is a unique selling preposition of all Pirates - of
> > all times.
>
> As you say, they had rules to follow. So where exactly is the difference?

The difference lies in the authority. Why don't you read some books on the 
subject first?

> a) as an opposite zu capitalism: yes. but I know, that a true
> communismn cannot be reached. so I waste only little time on that idea

Citing Alexander Berkman again:

| It would be Communist Anarchism.
| "Oh, Communism," your friend exclaims, "but you said you were not a
| Bolshevik!" 
| No, I am not a Bolshevik, because the Bolsheviki want a powerful government
| or State, while Anarchism means doing away with the State or government
| altogether.
| "But are not the Bolsheviki Communists?" you demand
| Yes, the Bolsheviki are Communists, but they want their dictatorship, their
| government, to compel people to live in Communism. Anarchist Communism, on
| the contrary, means voluntary Communism, Communism from free choice.

<http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Now_and_After:_The_ABC_of_Communist_Anarchism/Chapter_20>

> *rofl* Yeah, I'm wasting my time with the pirates, since I am afraid,
> the will destroy the authoritarian democracy. Nice plot. Really nice.

Next quote, same chapter:

| In the fewest words, Anarchism teaches that we can live in a society where
| there is no compulsion of any kind.
| [...]
| What must be abolished, then, to secure liberty?
| First of all, of course, the thing that invades you most, that handicaps or
| prevents your free activity; the thing that interferes with your liberty and
| compels you to live differently from what would be your own choice.
| That thing is government.

-- 
regards
Max Moritz Sievers