[pp.int.general] About pirate identity

[machado at sociologia.de]

Look this text 
http://www.forum-global.de/jm/art06-07/in_defense_of_legitimate_piracy.html

Jorge


Mirco da Silva escreveu:
> Christian Hufgard schrieb:
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>> Zitat von Mirco da Silva <mirco.da.silva at piracy-international.org>:
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>>> Christian Hufgard schrieb:
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>>>> Yes, some pirates are anarchists,
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>>>>         
>>> Look into history.
>>> Pirates never obeyed to the laws of any state.
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>>>       
>> Except those, who had letters of marque and were nothing more than  
>> sailing mercenaries.
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> Me talking about glorious pirates not scurvy privateers.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirates
> Do ye homework, landlubber.
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>>> The only rules they accept and follow are their own pirate codex varying
>>> an all autonomous units (aka pirate ships or fleets, projects - u name it)
>>> In fact they were and are blamed to be the enemy number one to the
>>> civilization of the empires and their global (east india) trading companies.
>>> Guess why.
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>>>       
>> I think, that you won't accept "burning down ships, killing the  
>> sailors and stealing their goods" as another possible reason?
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> Exactly, I do not.
> The war begun way before the slaves began their uprising.
> Do ye homework, landlubber.
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>>> To prefer individual and decentralized freedom instead of collective
>>> centralized tyranny is a unique selling preposition of all Pirates - of
>>> all times.
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>>>       
>> As you say, they had rules to follow. So where exactly is the difference?
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> The difference is... to have a choice or not.
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>> a) as an opposite zu capitalism: yes. but I know, that a true  
>> communismn cannot be reached. so I waste only little time on that idea
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> But you do. And you dont expect "true communism".
> You just need enough "real communism" to feel good.
> Thats the dilemma of hypocrisy.
> You cannot expect something, if you dont do anything for it.
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>> b) don't grab quote out of there context. I think that was the thread,  
>> when you claimed me to be a spy from government...
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> Not spy, but work. Willingly or not some do their best to transform the
> risk of a growing german pirate party into a static asset of a 
> government controlled opposition.  And some of them do it  with a letter
> of marque.
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> I am Mirco da Silva, and I approved this message.
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>>> You are using the "pirate thing" as a useful tool on your way to a
>>> dictatorship of the working class.
>>> For me the pirate partys are trojan horses carrying the code for freedom
>>> into authoritarian systems.
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>>>       
>> *rofl* 
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> For a real discussion, please stand up.
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>> Yeah, I'm wasting my time with the pirates,
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> You are wasting your time, mkay.
> With communism?
> With pirates?
> Isnt that the same for you?
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>>>> they are a small minority.
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>>>>         
>>> The authoritarian the environment, the less pirates are present.
>>> (Vice versa works too.)
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>>>       
>> Well, think that's why the EU is increasing it's activities against  
>> pirates in front of somalia.
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> The EU decided this week to take their forces the first time ever into a
> naval mission - against Pirates off the coast of Somalia.
> As the Nato does, as the US Navy does, as Russia does. As even India does.
> It seems their is no bigger thread on earth than pirates - despite the
> upcoming new thread of 'eco-terrorists' like the Sea Shepheards.
> Ooops.. they define themselves as modern pirates, too.
>
> conclusion:
> Pirates are a thread.
> If you are not a thread you are not a pirate.
>
> You are not a thread, except for Pirates.
>
> Straight accusation enough, Christian?
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