[pp.int.general] Telecompackage (138/166)

Błażej Kaczorowski blazej.kaczorowski at gmail.com
Tue Apr 21 23:11:23 CEST 2009


Is there any consolidated article describing all the phases that Telecom
Package has came through and what's are the next threats about it. I
understand that all the stuff related to ‘new consumer options' is still in.
But there are no law allowing 3 strikes stuff ... I am getting little
confused here ...

I must admit that I haven't traced all the way of TP carefully the because
on new webpage we have to run during last couple of days.

Blazej PP Poland

2009/4/21 Jouni Snellman <jounisnellman at gmail.com>

> Swedish MEPs are already trying to score points with this in the Swedish
> media. Elections are coming up in June ; )
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Andrew Norton <
> andrew.norton at pirate-party.us> wrote:
>
>> Vote over.
>> "Despite strong pressure to reach a compromise on the framework directive
>> of the Telecoms Package, the ITRE committee of the European Parliament has
>> today adopted again amendment 138/46, by a strong majority of 40 against 4."
>>
>>
>> http://www.laquadrature.net/en/victory-for-eu-citizens-amendement-138-was-voted-againfor some info
>>
>> Anyone up for a press release? see me in #ppi soon
>>
>>
>> Florian Lauté wrote:
>>
>>> Hey everybody.
>>>
>>> The 138 is now known as 46
>>> http://www.pcinpact.com/actu/news_multi/50472.htm
>>> The 46 will be defend by Catherine Trautmann at the european parliament.
>>> This amedment was the last position approuved and validated by the
>>> european parliament before the vote in ITRE on 21 april (today).
>>>
>>> For the moment I have no news from the vote. I hope that it stay as an
>>> amendment for the telecom package.
>>>
>>> This amendment is particulary important for french people because of the
>>> law "Création et internet" which must be "re"voted on 29 april.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Florian
>>>
>>> 2009/4/21 Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com <mailto:nicco77 at gmail.com>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Well, the domain was created by James Killock (jim at killock.org.uk
>>>    <mailto:jim at killock.org.uk>)  so
>>>    you could try to reach them that way..
>>>
>>>    2009/4/21 Błażej Kaczorowski <blazej.kaczorowski at gmail.com
>>>    <mailto:blazej.kaczorowski at gmail.com>>:
>>>     > No reply for now ...
>>>     >
>>>     > 2009/4/21 Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com
>>>    <mailto:nicco77 at gmail.com>>
>>>     >>
>>>     >> Ahh, use the contact form.
>>>     >>
>>>     >> 2009/4/21 Błażej Kaczorowski <blazej.kaczorowski at gmail.com
>>>    <mailto:blazej.kaczorowski at gmail.com>>:
>>>     >> > http://blackouteurope.eu/ of coz
>>>     >> >
>>>     >> > 2009/4/21 Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com
>>>    <mailto:nicco77 at gmail.com>>
>>>     >> >>
>>>     >> >> Sorry, add Polish translation where?
>>>     >> >>
>>>     >> >>
>>>     >> >> - Nicolas
>>>     >> >>
>>>     >> >>
>>>     >> >> 2009/4/21 Błażej Kaczorowski <mrkaczor at interia.pl>:
>>>     >> >> > Do you know for whom I need to contact to add polish
>>>    translation
>>>     >> >> > there
>>>     >> >> > (I
>>>     >> >> > will have it ready in 2-3h).
>>>     >> >> >
>>>     >> >> > Blazej
>>>     >> >> > PP Poland
>>>     >> >> >
>>>     >> >> > 2009/4/21 Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com
>>>    <mailto:nicco77 at gmail.com>>
>>>     >> >> >>
>>>     >> >> >> Patrick,
>>>     >> >> >>
>>>     >> >> >> I just run your article through Google Translate since I
>>>    do not know
>>>     >> >> >> German that well, still I think you took up the essence of
>>> the
>>>     >> >> >> issue,
>>>     >> >> >> nice work! :)
>>>     >> >> >>
>>>     >> >> >>
>>>     >> >> >> - Nicolas
>>>     >> >> >>
>>>     >> >> >>
>>>     >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Patrick Kontschak
>>>     >> >> >> <patrick.kontschak at googlemail.com
>>>    <mailto:patrick.kontschak at googlemail.com>> wrote:
>>>     >> >> >> > I did a Blog entry for the german people. but the people
>>>    who knows
>>>     >> >> >> > my
>>>     >> >> >> > blog (I#m not that popular sadly) or people in my
>>>     >> >> >> > skype/msn/icq/twitter didn't respond yet. most of them
>>>    maybe think
>>>     >> >> >> > it's not for real.
>>>     >> >> >> >
>>>    http://kl3ks.wordpress.com/2009/04/20/tag-50-blackout-europe/
>>>     >> >> >> > (and I hope I understood the whole thing right)
>>>     >> >> >> > I also emailed all the german MEPs.
>>>     >> >> >> >
>>>     >> >> >> > Patrick Kontschak
>>>     >> >> >> >
>>>     >> >> >> >
>>>     >> >> >> >
>>>     >> >> >> > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Nicolas Sahlqvist
>>>     >> >> >> > <nicco77 at gmail.com <mailto:nicco77 at gmail.com>>
>>>
>>>     >> >> >> > wrote:
>>>     >> >> >> >> Hi PPI,
>>>     >> >> >> >>
>>>     >> >> >> >> I am wondering if there are any campaigns to get people
>>> to
>>>     >> >> >> >> contact
>>>     >> >> >> >> there MEP's against the Telecompackage (138/166) from
>>>    PP parties
>>>     >> >> >> >> outside Sweden?
>>>     >> >> >> >>
>>>     >> >> >> >> The original 138 and 166 addition to the Telecompackage
>>>    is said
>>>     >> >> >> >> to
>>>     >> >> >> >> be
>>>     >> >> >> >> ok while the revised one makes Internet a package
>>>    services where
>>>     >> >> >> >> the
>>>     >> >> >> >> ISP can black or whilte list as per their own discretion
>>>     >> >> >> >> potentially
>>>     >> >> >> >> making Internet look like a cable TV package.. There is
>>>    also talk
>>>     >> >> >> >> about a compromise of the 138 and 166, not sure that
>>>    would be in
>>>     >> >> >> >> the
>>>     >> >> >> >> interest of PP.
>>>     >> >> >> >>
>>>     >> >> >> >> http://www.blackouteurope.eu/
>>>     >> >> >> >>
>>>     >> >> >> >> The whole thing is started outside Sweden (UK or FR),
>>>    yet I have
>>>     >> >> >> >> not
>>>     >> >> >> >> seen much reactions outside Sweden, could you please
>>>    fill me in?
>>>     >> >> >> >>
>>>     >> >> >> >>
>>>     >> >> >> >> - Nicolas
>>>     >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________
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