[pp.int.general] Telecompackage (138/166)

Nicolas Sahlqvist nicco77 at gmail.com
Fri Apr 24 00:44:34 CEST 2009


Hi Błażej,

They explain it a bit at IPTEGRITY:
http://www.iptegrity.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=321&Itemid=9

Suggestion of changes:
http://www.erikjosefsson.eu/sites/default/files/Citizens_Rights_Amendments_(Part_I).pdf
http://www.erikjosefsson.eu/sites/default/files/Citizens_Rights_Amendments_(Part_II).pdf
http://www.erikjosefsson.eu/sites/default/files/Citizens_Rights_Amendments_(Part_III).pdf

What is Internet Neutrality all about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP_3WnJ42kw

France is digging in waiting for there result of the Hadopi vote on the 29th:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/rbssTechMediaTelecomNews/idUKLN64345920090423


- Nicolas


2009/4/21 Błażej Kaczorowski <blazej.kaczorowski at gmail.com>:
> Is there any consolidated article describing all the phases that Telecom
> Package has came through and what's are the next threats about it. I
> understand that all the stuff related to ‘new consumer options' is still in.
> But there are no law allowing 3 strikes stuff ... I am getting little
> confused here ...
>
> I must admit that I haven't traced all the way of TP carefully the because
> on new webpage we have to run during last couple of days.
>
> Blazej PP Poland
>
> 2009/4/21 Jouni Snellman <jounisnellman at gmail.com>
>>
>> Swedish MEPs are already trying to score points with this in the Swedish
>> media. Elections are coming up in June ; )
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Andrew Norton
>> <andrew.norton at pirate-party.us> wrote:
>>>
>>> Vote over.
>>> "Despite strong pressure to reach a compromise on the framework directive
>>> of the Telecoms Package, the ITRE committee of the European Parliament has
>>> today adopted again amendment 138/46, by a strong majority of 40 against 4."
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.laquadrature.net/en/victory-for-eu-citizens-amendement-138-was-voted-again
>>> for some info
>>>
>>> Anyone up for a press release? see me in #ppi soon
>>>
>>>
>>> Florian Lauté wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey everybody.
>>>>
>>>> The 138 is now known as 46
>>>> http://www.pcinpact.com/actu/news_multi/50472.htm
>>>> The 46 will be defend by Catherine Trautmann at the european parliament.
>>>> This amedment was the last position approuved and validated by the
>>>> european parliament before the vote in ITRE on 21 april (today).
>>>>
>>>> For the moment I have no news from the vote. I hope that it stay as an
>>>> amendment for the telecom package.
>>>>
>>>> This amendment is particulary important for french people because of the
>>>> law "Création et internet" which must be "re"voted on 29 april.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, Florian
>>>>
>>>> 2009/4/21 Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:nicco77 at gmail.com>>
>>>>
>>>>    Well, the domain was created by James Killock (jim at killock.org.uk
>>>>    <mailto:jim at killock.org.uk>)  so
>>>>    you could try to reach them that way..
>>>>
>>>>    2009/4/21 Błażej Kaczorowski <blazej.kaczorowski at gmail.com
>>>>    <mailto:blazej.kaczorowski at gmail.com>>:
>>>>     > No reply for now ...
>>>>     >
>>>>     > 2009/4/21 Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com
>>>>    <mailto:nicco77 at gmail.com>>
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >> Ahh, use the contact form.
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >> 2009/4/21 Błażej Kaczorowski <blazej.kaczorowski at gmail.com
>>>>    <mailto:blazej.kaczorowski at gmail.com>>:
>>>>     >> > http://blackouteurope.eu/ of coz
>>>>     >> >
>>>>     >> > 2009/4/21 Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com
>>>>    <mailto:nicco77 at gmail.com>>
>>>>     >> >>
>>>>     >> >> Sorry, add Polish translation where?
>>>>     >> >>
>>>>     >> >>
>>>>     >> >> - Nicolas
>>>>     >> >>
>>>>     >> >>
>>>>     >> >> 2009/4/21 Błażej Kaczorowski <mrkaczor at interia.pl>:
>>>>     >> >> > Do you know for whom I need to contact to add polish
>>>>    translation
>>>>     >> >> > there
>>>>     >> >> > (I
>>>>     >> >> > will have it ready in 2-3h).
>>>>     >> >> >
>>>>     >> >> > Blazej
>>>>     >> >> > PP Poland
>>>>     >> >> >
>>>>     >> >> > 2009/4/21 Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com
>>>>    <mailto:nicco77 at gmail.com>>
>>>>     >> >> >>
>>>>     >> >> >> Patrick,
>>>>     >> >> >>
>>>>     >> >> >> I just run your article through Google Translate since I
>>>>    do not know
>>>>     >> >> >> German that well, still I think you took up the essence of
>>>> the
>>>>     >> >> >> issue,
>>>>     >> >> >> nice work! :)
>>>>     >> >> >>
>>>>     >> >> >>
>>>>     >> >> >> - Nicolas
>>>>     >> >> >>
>>>>     >> >> >>
>>>>     >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Patrick Kontschak
>>>>     >> >> >> <patrick.kontschak at googlemail.com
>>>>    <mailto:patrick.kontschak at googlemail.com>> wrote:
>>>>     >> >> >> > I did a Blog entry for the german people. but the people
>>>>    who knows
>>>>     >> >> >> > my
>>>>     >> >> >> > blog (I#m not that popular sadly) or people in my
>>>>     >> >> >> > skype/msn/icq/twitter didn't respond yet. most of them
>>>>    maybe think
>>>>     >> >> >> > it's not for real.
>>>>     >> >> >> >
>>>>    http://kl3ks.wordpress.com/2009/04/20/tag-50-blackout-europe/
>>>>     >> >> >> > (and I hope I understood the whole thing right)
>>>>     >> >> >> > I also emailed all the german MEPs.
>>>>     >> >> >> >
>>>>     >> >> >> > Patrick Kontschak
>>>>     >> >> >> >
>>>>     >> >> >> >
>>>>     >> >> >> >
>>>>     >> >> >> > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Nicolas Sahlqvist
>>>>     >> >> >> > <nicco77 at gmail.com <mailto:nicco77 at gmail.com>>
>>>>     >> >> >> > wrote:
>>>>     >> >> >> >> Hi PPI,
>>>>     >> >> >> >>
>>>>     >> >> >> >> I am wondering if there are any campaigns to get people
>>>> to
>>>>     >> >> >> >> contact
>>>>     >> >> >> >> there MEP's against the Telecompackage (138/166) from
>>>>    PP parties
>>>>     >> >> >> >> outside Sweden?
>>>>     >> >> >> >>
>>>>     >> >> >> >> The original 138 and 166 addition to the Telecompackage
>>>>    is said
>>>>     >> >> >> >> to
>>>>     >> >> >> >> be
>>>>     >> >> >> >> ok while the revised one makes Internet a package
>>>>    services where
>>>>     >> >> >> >> the
>>>>     >> >> >> >> ISP can black or whilte list as per their own discretion
>>>>     >> >> >> >> potentially
>>>>     >> >> >> >> making Internet look like a cable TV package.. There is
>>>>    also talk
>>>>     >> >> >> >> about a compromise of the 138 and 166, not sure that
>>>>    would be in
>>>>     >> >> >> >> the
>>>>     >> >> >> >> interest of PP.
>>>>     >> >> >> >>
>>>>     >> >> >> >> http://www.blackouteurope.eu/
>>>>     >> >> >> >>
>>>>     >> >> >> >> The whole thing is started outside Sweden (UK or FR),
>>>>    yet I have
>>>>     >> >> >> >> not
>>>>     >> >> >> >> seen much reactions outside Sweden, could you please
>>>>    fill me in?
>>>>     >> >> >> >>
>>>>     >> >> >> >>
>>>>     >> >> >> >> - Nicolas
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