[pp.int.general] Telecompackage (138/166)
Nicolas Sahlqvist
nicco77 at gmail.com
Fri Apr 24 00:44:34 CEST 2009
Hi Błażej,
They explain it a bit at IPTEGRITY:
http://www.iptegrity.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=321&Itemid=9
Suggestion of changes:
http://www.erikjosefsson.eu/sites/default/files/Citizens_Rights_Amendments_(Part_I).pdf
http://www.erikjosefsson.eu/sites/default/files/Citizens_Rights_Amendments_(Part_II).pdf
http://www.erikjosefsson.eu/sites/default/files/Citizens_Rights_Amendments_(Part_III).pdf
What is Internet Neutrality all about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP_3WnJ42kw
France is digging in waiting for there result of the Hadopi vote on the 29th:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/rbssTechMediaTelecomNews/idUKLN64345920090423
- Nicolas
2009/4/21 Błażej Kaczorowski <blazej.kaczorowski at gmail.com>:
> Is there any consolidated article describing all the phases that Telecom
> Package has came through and what's are the next threats about it. I
> understand that all the stuff related to ‘new consumer options' is still in.
> But there are no law allowing 3 strikes stuff ... I am getting little
> confused here ...
>
> I must admit that I haven't traced all the way of TP carefully the because
> on new webpage we have to run during last couple of days.
>
> Blazej PP Poland
>
> 2009/4/21 Jouni Snellman <jounisnellman at gmail.com>
>>
>> Swedish MEPs are already trying to score points with this in the Swedish
>> media. Elections are coming up in June ; )
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Andrew Norton
>> <andrew.norton at pirate-party.us> wrote:
>>>
>>> Vote over.
>>> "Despite strong pressure to reach a compromise on the framework directive
>>> of the Telecoms Package, the ITRE committee of the European Parliament has
>>> today adopted again amendment 138/46, by a strong majority of 40 against 4."
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.laquadrature.net/en/victory-for-eu-citizens-amendement-138-was-voted-again
>>> for some info
>>>
>>> Anyone up for a press release? see me in #ppi soon
>>>
>>>
>>> Florian Lauté wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey everybody.
>>>>
>>>> The 138 is now known as 46
>>>> http://www.pcinpact.com/actu/news_multi/50472.htm
>>>> The 46 will be defend by Catherine Trautmann at the european parliament.
>>>> This amedment was the last position approuved and validated by the
>>>> european parliament before the vote in ITRE on 21 april (today).
>>>>
>>>> For the moment I have no news from the vote. I hope that it stay as an
>>>> amendment for the telecom package.
>>>>
>>>> This amendment is particulary important for french people because of the
>>>> law "Création et internet" which must be "re"voted on 29 april.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, Florian
>>>>
>>>> 2009/4/21 Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:nicco77 at gmail.com>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, the domain was created by James Killock (jim at killock.org.uk
>>>> <mailto:jim at killock.org.uk>) so
>>>> you could try to reach them that way..
>>>>
>>>> 2009/4/21 Błażej Kaczorowski <blazej.kaczorowski at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:blazej.kaczorowski at gmail.com>>:
>>>> > No reply for now ...
>>>> >
>>>> > 2009/4/21 Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:nicco77 at gmail.com>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Ahh, use the contact form.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 2009/4/21 Błażej Kaczorowski <blazej.kaczorowski at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:blazej.kaczorowski at gmail.com>>:
>>>> >> > http://blackouteurope.eu/ of coz
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > 2009/4/21 Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:nicco77 at gmail.com>>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Sorry, add Polish translation where?
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> - Nicolas
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> 2009/4/21 Błażej Kaczorowski <mrkaczor at interia.pl>:
>>>> >> >> > Do you know for whom I need to contact to add polish
>>>> translation
>>>> >> >> > there
>>>> >> >> > (I
>>>> >> >> > will have it ready in 2-3h).
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Blazej
>>>> >> >> > PP Poland
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > 2009/4/21 Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:nicco77 at gmail.com>>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> Patrick,
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> I just run your article through Google Translate since I
>>>> do not know
>>>> >> >> >> German that well, still I think you took up the essence of
>>>> the
>>>> >> >> >> issue,
>>>> >> >> >> nice work! :)
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> - Nicolas
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Patrick Kontschak
>>>> >> >> >> <patrick.kontschak at googlemail.com
>>>> <mailto:patrick.kontschak at googlemail.com>> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> > I did a Blog entry for the german people. but the people
>>>> who knows
>>>> >> >> >> > my
>>>> >> >> >> > blog (I#m not that popular sadly) or people in my
>>>> >> >> >> > skype/msn/icq/twitter didn't respond yet. most of them
>>>> maybe think
>>>> >> >> >> > it's not for real.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> http://kl3ks.wordpress.com/2009/04/20/tag-50-blackout-europe/
>>>> >> >> >> > (and I hope I understood the whole thing right)
>>>> >> >> >> > I also emailed all the german MEPs.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > Patrick Kontschak
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Nicolas Sahlqvist
>>>> >> >> >> > <nicco77 at gmail.com <mailto:nicco77 at gmail.com>>
>>>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> >> Hi PPI,
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >> I am wondering if there are any campaigns to get people
>>>> to
>>>> >> >> >> >> contact
>>>> >> >> >> >> there MEP's against the Telecompackage (138/166) from
>>>> PP parties
>>>> >> >> >> >> outside Sweden?
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >> The original 138 and 166 addition to the Telecompackage
>>>> is said
>>>> >> >> >> >> to
>>>> >> >> >> >> be
>>>> >> >> >> >> ok while the revised one makes Internet a package
>>>> services where
>>>> >> >> >> >> the
>>>> >> >> >> >> ISP can black or whilte list as per their own discretion
>>>> >> >> >> >> potentially
>>>> >> >> >> >> making Internet look like a cable TV package.. There is
>>>> also talk
>>>> >> >> >> >> about a compromise of the 138 and 166, not sure that
>>>> would be in
>>>> >> >> >> >> the
>>>> >> >> >> >> interest of PP.
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >> http://www.blackouteurope.eu/
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >> The whole thing is started outside Sweden (UK or FR),
>>>> yet I have
>>>> >> >> >> >> not
>>>> >> >> >> >> seen much reactions outside Sweden, could you please
>>>> fill me in?
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >> - Nicolas
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