[pp.int.general] Pirate Bay

[Reinier Bakels]

Very useful comment! Where law and such practical considerations may 
conflict is the implied presumption of copyright enforcers and collecting 
society that every author wants to make money from his copyright and opposes 
free distribution.
I heard of musicians playing at charity concerts who had to pay the money 
back themselves because it was collected anyway "by default".

Very strange: a major Dutch newspaper recently reported that if you watch TV 
via cable (99% in NL), you pay yourself for TV commercials, because the law 
says that cable relay = new publication in the sens of copyright law, and 
commercials are object of copyright. The logic of collection sociaties does 
not allow to acknowledge that advertisers typically want as wide a spread of 
their message as possible, and are supposed to pay their advertising 
agencies for unlimited distribution ...

Why don't artists protest because TPB verdict hurts them in their ambition 
to become widely known? It is a violation of information freedom (10 ECHR).

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ole Husgaard" <pirat at sparre.dk>
To: "Pirate Parties International -- General Talk" 
<pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Pirate Bay


> Reinier Bakels skrev:
>> In the aftermath of last weeks Pirate Bay decision, I read a lot of 
>> articles about "illegal DOWNloading", even in the "quality newspaper" I 
>> am subscribed to. I thino of writing them a letter. What are the right 
>> arguments?
>>
> The argument I have used in DK with some success is:
>
> Recording companies are taking most of the profits from the people who
> make the music. Because of this the people who make new music are
> looking for new business models where the recording companies are not
> needed.
>
> One of these business models is to legally allow free distribution of
> the music to find a large audience, and then analyze downloads to find
> out where most tickets can be sold for concerts.
>
> The problem for the musician with this business model is that if he gets
> popular and is distributing from his own web site he will get a large
> bill for the internet traffic (or get blocked by the hosting provider).
> Because of this, file-sharing networks is a good option, as the musician
> does not have to pay anything. Of course these musicians selects large
> and popular file-sharing networks (like TPB) and file-sharing networks
> that are positive towards musicians and dont like recording companies
> (like TPB).
>
> The recording industry is of course afraid of this business model. They
> know it is going to be their death if it prevails. So they are of course
> fighting it. And the best way of fighting it is to stop the most popular
> distribution channel of the musicians who are using this new business
> model (The Pirate Bay).
>
> So the _real_ reason the recording industry is going against TPB is that
> they want to stop legal competition.
>
> Do we really want to stop new business models to support an old business
> model that as become obsolete?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Ole Husgaard.
>
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