[pp.int.general] Let us organize a study session!

Mikko Särelä msarela at cc.hut.fi
Tue Aug 4 17:04:09 CEST 2009


I have a suggestion. If there is going to be a PPI conference, let's put 
up a wiki page (or several) for the planning - that way the details and 
ideas are not lost to the mailing list archive. And also, let's agree that 
the conference will create minutes of the meeting and the decisions and 
put them to the wiki.

It's about time we start working in ways that allows new comers to find 
ideas and things previously discussed and decided. After all, you can't 
fault people for discussing the same things again and again, if we never 
gather up the old ideas into a format that a new comer can access. (And 
no, requiring someone to go through an entire email archive and somehow 
'know' what was discussed in a face to face meeting some years ago is not 
an acceptable requirement, if we actually mean to get something done). 

-Mikko

On Tue, 4 Aug 2009, Andrew Norton wrote:
> Their purpose is to discuss the issues that are brought up. I do not
> have an archive, because I was never able to attend one (air fair is
> expensive from the US). It would be better to hear from the people
> that were there. They can tell you what went on better than I can. A
> good number of people on this list were at most of the meetings.
> 
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Eric
> Priezkalns<eric.priezkalns at pirateparty.org.uk> wrote:
> > As you have a history of PPI meetings, is it too rude to ask what their
> > purpose is?  Perhaps you have an on-line archive of what the PPI meetings
> > have done and agreed previously, but if so, I cannot find it...
> >
> > E
> >
> > On 4 Aug 2009, at 14:39, Andrew Norton wrote:
> >
> >> Another reason 'why not berlin' is  simply "Berlin is so 2008" In
> >> other words, the meeting cycles between parties, in an attempt to make
> >> it 'local' to each party in turn, and give each one a chance to how
> >> things off. The PPI meeting was held in Berlin in Jan 08. Before it's
> >> Germany's turn, it will be Austria's again (since they held the
> >> meeting before). The order so far has been Austria, Germany, Sweden,
> >> Finland (with no summer meeting this year, because of the proximity of
> >> the EU elections)
> >>
> >> And Brussels is a logical choice anyway, for the first meeting after
> >> the first Pirate Party member is elected to office anywhere, in
> >> Brussels. Has a nice symbolism there. Plus, great as the CCC is, the
> >> PP tagging along their international conference onto their event isn't
> >> doing many favours to either the CCC (which gets disrupted) or to the
> >> PP (where it ends up playing second fiddle)
> >>
> >> Also, something else to remember - there are parties outside of Europe
> >> as well. Belgium is slightly more accessable (and cheaper) than
> >> Berlin, from the US, Canada, and South America (nowhere is accessible
> >> from Australia, sorry, but CrocodileDundeeistan is too far away...
> >>
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:48 AM, moira brülisauer<moosline at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Why Brussel? why not Geneva?
> >>>
> >>> Or if you talc with the CCC perhaps we can do things like that paralell
> >>> or
> >>> before/after the 26th Chaos Communication Congress. It's in december in
> >>> Berlin.
> >>>
> >>> Think about that
> >>>
> >>> greetz
> >>> Moira Brülisauer
> >>> Aktuarin der PPs Paritparty of Switzerland
> >>>
> >>> 2009/8/3 Raquero <enrique at errea.es>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>       Hi:
> >>>>
> >>>>               From PIRATA (Spanish pirate party) are too agree to set a
> >>>> date for a meeting
> >>>> in Brussels, theoretically. Personally, it suits to me really fine in a
> >>>> accomodation way of talking. PIRATA are also agree to  settle some basic
> >>>> pillars and common points of view regarding who (the PPI movement) are
> >>>> (aregointobe )we, where we heading for, and which are the goals in a
> >>>> short
> >>>> or
> >>>> medium term. Apart this, we would like to know or clarifify about the
> >>>> meaning
> >>>> of " PPI key members contacted for". May be are "de facto" elegible key
> >>>> members stablished ?
> >>>>
> >>>>               Someone mentioned too that if required, some translations
> >>>> could be made
> >>>> apart to the English or French lenguages. PIRATA can manage this task,
> >>>> also,
> >>>> and add the Spanish as another option/lenguage to be read or used for.
> >>>>
> >>>>               Warm regards.
> >>>>
> >>>>               Enrique Errea. (ninHer)
> >>>>               II.RR. Coordinator of PIRATA. (Spanish Pirate Party)
> >>>> ____________________________________________________
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Moira Brülisauer
> >>> Ferme Cesay
> >>> 2874 St Brais
> >>> +41 (0)32 433 42 41
> >>>
> >>>
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Mikko Särelä
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