[pp.int.general] German Pirates on 11%

[Eric Priezkalns]

On 17 Aug 2009, at 22:57, Olaf Clausing wrote:

> Hi,

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> We have plenty of time and still need to work hard on our internal  
> structure. I have the feeling that most pirates are not aware that  
> we are the first transnational Party and that we have and want to  
> integrate the collective intelligence of joined-up networks. To make  
> this part of the political process.

Can you please justify this claim - that we are the 'first  
transnational party'?  I am not saying I disagree, but I think it is  
important that you are clear what you mean by this.  It is a bold  
claim, and we all need to understand what it means.  We also need to  
understand why earlier movements like the Greens or Socialists were  
not 'transnational'.
>
> We need a strong Manifest and transnational identity , a perfect  
> social groupware (stop emailing! Look at this video http://www.scope09.de/interview-luis-suarez/) 
>  and tools to gain political influence like the online petition and  
> other...
>
> I think that is at the moment more important than any election.  
> Maybe the PP will end in informational noise, if we fail to  
> integrate a meta-concept.
> If we do it right, we will have plenty of time to evolve...
>
> Greetings from Bremen/Germany
>
> Olaf Clausing
>
>
>
>
>> Betreff: Re: [pp.int.general] German Pirates on 11%
>> Rick Falkvinge (Piratpartiet) wrote:
>>> In our experience, the offline polls are surprisingly (and
>>> disappointingly) :) correct.
>>>
>> If so the statistical institutes in sweden are much more advanced  
>> than
>> those in germany..
>>
>> Last time during Bundestag-election a popular show on a private TV
>> channel did a poll. They allowed everyone, including those without
>> voting rights, to vote. And everyone had the option to vote as  
>> often as
>> he liked.
>>
>> It was ment as entertainment and a joke. It was anything but
>> representative. So they thought...
>>
>> Surprisingly this TV-show had results *much* better than all of our
>> "official" polls done by respectable institutes.And we're not  
>> speaking
>> about tenth of a percent here..
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