[pp.int.general] Open positions in PPI

[coretx]

No need for further ranting Ryan.
As usual, while people rant @ pp.int.general.
People are working somewhere else ;)
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  ( And some more results at other etherpads )

The Anti ACTA taskforce is up & running.
Niccolas Sahlqvist is leading the taskforce.
And you can find him in #ppi-acta @ irc.piratpartiet.se

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On Dec 8, 2009, at 3:28 AM, Ryan Martin wrote:

> This sounds just like the US party right now.  We have absolutely no
> concrete chatter about actions around the ACTA, but by god we're  
> able to get
> some WORDS spit out about IRC logs and personality conficts!  I love  
> some of
> the content that is coming out of the lists here and there, but  
> there really
> isn't much chatter about things to really get INVOLVED with.  It's  
> really
> hard, at least here in the US, to find volunteers AND find a  
> comfortable
> medium for communication AND get them with free time.  Once we get  
> folks we
> really have to have things to work on, and it would be nice if we all
> coordinated here.
>
> This is a great issue for any would be candidate to start  
> campaigning on,
> for any college group to flyer about, and so on.  It's international  
> in
> scope and we must make sure our volunteers everywhere are aware and  
> informed
> and hopefully preforming actions that at the LEAST increase public
> awareness.
>
> I feel the focus on the coreteam is absurd because it's the goal of  
> us, the
> volunteers, to give administration of any stripe something to manage.
>
> The game is afoot, pirates!  The goal probably doesn't lie INSIDE  
> the pirate
> party, at least at this very second.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 1:03 PM, W Tovey <will.tovey at pp-international.net 
> >wrote:
>
>> I've added a few thoughts on the comments here.
>>
>>
>> Sven Clement wrote:
>>
>>> This HAS TO BE normal procedure for the coreteam, I totally  
>>> understand,
>>> that you guys are working hard, I also agree that we cannot have  
>>> always a
>>> complete answer after 24/48 hours, but I would be glad to at least  
>>> see that
>>> someone is looking into my mail. Also because I (as most of the  
>>> others) have
>>> to be transparent with my board so that if I do not get at least  
>>> an answer
>>> telling me: "we do not have time, let's discuss it later" I can't  
>>> tell
>>> anything to my board which is bad for approval of PPI on a  
>>> national level.
>>>
>> I would like to think that this already is normal procedure; it was
>> discussed to an extent in the meeting on the 26th. Hopefully things  
>> should
>> be improving on this front.
>>
>> I understand Samirs concerns about being completely transparent but  
>> I do
>>> think that at LEAST the members (the parties) should get ALL  
>>> information
>>> that there is. Including but not limiting to complete IRC-logs,  
>>> information
>>> about meetings with other organizations, status of the  
>>> incorporation of PPI,
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> This does not have to be open to everyone, but EVERY BOARD should  
>>> get
>>> access to the same informations as the coreteam, because if that  
>>> is not
>>> guaranteed, how can the coreteam be controlled? How can the  
>>> national boards
>>> deliberate onto something they have not ALL the information? This  
>>> entire
>>> discussion could have been avoided if the national boards would  
>>> have had
>>> access to the mentioned information.
>>>
>> I should have complete IRC logs from the Coreteam channel since I  
>> joined in
>> October and there is no technical issue with making them available on
>> request and I am happy to answer questions on issues from the  
>> minutes. The
>> channel is also open and unmoderated outside official meetings.  
>> However, as
>> I'm sure those of you who frequent IRC are aware, among the important
>> discussions there are quite a few off-topic notes, personal details  
>> and
>> similar things that are of little relevance or interest to anyone  
>> other than
>> a subset of those present. I can try to prune these sections from  
>> the logs,
>> but that would seem to be the general idea behind making minutes -  
>> they
>> should contain all the relevant material (although I can try to put  
>> more
>> details in if they are wanted).
>>
>> As for the status of incorporation of PPI; to my knowledge, PPI  
>> currently
>> consists of the Coreteam (6 people), forum (at pp- 
>> international.net), wiki
>> (at int.piratenpartei.de) and some mailing lists and IRC channels -  
>> there
>> is a bank account being set up, but that's been delayed due to  
>> issues with
>> the paperwork. As for getting in contact with all the PP boards, I  
>> wish it
>> were that simple; there is currently no "official" list of member  
>> PPs, never
>> mind contact details for their boards. So far (using the forum  
>> which as 32
>> countries listed, the wiki, with 36 and Wikipedia with 35 and from  
>> rummaging
>> around all their websites) I have a list of about 40 PPs around the  
>> world,
>> but I only have verified contact details for 14 of them (and no  
>> details for
>> some). Some of the newer PPs don't have boards or leaders yet; some  
>> PPs seem
>> to have disappeared and reappeared elsewhere. However, this is  
>> something I
>> am working on at the moment, but it takes time. I would ask people  
>> to be
>> patient for now; I am happy to respond to individual requests from  
>> PPs but
>> until there is a better framework in place, I am reluctant to send  
>> out too
>> many emails to the current list (I have already had one person  
>> noting that
>> they're getting too much traffic to deal with), particularly when  
>> there may
>> be 'sensitive' information included and some of the addresses are
>> unverified.
>>
>> **If anyone reading this is the international co-ordinator (or  
>> equivalent)
>> of your PP (and you haven't heard from me recently) please do get in
>> touch.**
>>
>> One of the things I intend to propose at the conference (or  
>> recommend to my
>> successor) is some sort of "official registration form" for Parties  
>> that
>> wish to be members of PPI that requests, among other things,  
>> contact details
>> for an "International Co-ordinator" through which we can talk to  
>> the party.
>> I know this may sound like excessive bureaucracy and unnecessary  
>> paperwork
>> but without it, I fear PPI will fall apart.
>>
>> Anyway, I hope that has cleared some things up; as always, I am  
>> happy to
>> answer questions or respond to requests for more details, just give  
>> me a
>> nudge.
>>
>> -Will
>>
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