[pp.int.general] copyright vs. "droit d'auteur"

[Carlos Ayala Vargas]

Reinier Bakels wrote:
> The alternative is obvious: better use convincing arguments not based 
> on human rights than not convincing arguments based on human rights 
> (if the ideal combination - convincing arguments based on human rights 
> - is not available).
However, it is available; thus, while I thank you for the alternative, 
I'll continue using human rights as one of the pieces of my arguments stock.
> There are actually plenty of those (at least in the case of software 
> patents).Politicians preferablely use arguments from society, not from 
> law.
Traditional politicians prefer to be left doing whatever they want 
without being disturbed. And they won't hear you if having majority, no 
matter how good your arguments are as long as they can make their wish 
-i.e., the wish of the lobbies they listen to-.

My concern is with the eligible voters, the ones who can give us the 
chance of nailing some seats, the ones who suffers from those harmful 
decisions from traditional politicians. Without seats, you can be as 
beautiful as Monica Bellucci or Brad Pitt and as convincing as Socrates 
.... they will dismiss your arguments as quick as I dismiss drinking 
Coca-cola.
> It is actually quite common that non-lawyers make the mistake of using 
> legal arguments.
Again: David Bravo, Javier de la Cueva, Carlos Sanchez Almeida are 
*lawyers* that make the /mistake/ of using legal arguments ... and they 
are actually -at least some of them- famous even in a TV scope, and I 
think that respected by many internet users.

Using human rights arguments is not a mistake, what happens is simply 
that you don't like to use them; ok, as ok as it is PIRATA using human 
rights arguments -because, same as for Bravo, de la Cueva, Sanchez 
Almeida and others, for us they work-.
> If you go to an attorney, you should ask him to help you to get your 
> money back, not to prosecute someone for tort. Using legal arguments 
> inm politics redoubles the legal side and neglects the "real", social 
> side.
I wish I were able to have the same confidence you have in traditional 
politicians being trustable and reasonable. Maybe you should stay some 
months in Spain, or at least get connected with Spanish news, and you'd 
probably change your mind.


                                                                                                 
Carlos Ayala
                                                                                                 
( Aiarakoa )

                                                                         
Partido Pirata National Board's Chairman