[pp.int.general] proposal

[Andrew Norton]

Reinier Bakels wrote:
> For reasons or organisational integrity, I think that we should disclose 
> for each other our sources of income and professional affiliations in 
> the Helsinki meeting at the latest.
> My experience during the swpat fight is that opponents (also) typically 
> start to ask this question.
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> To make a start, and give the good example: I inherited from two rich 
> grandmothers, and I am "technically" retired.

And since you put "technically" it means you'd like to consider it, but 
are not in reality. So what is your source, and prior to inheriting, 
what was your source of income?

My Full Time job is known to most on the list that have bothered to 
actually talk to me, rather than talk AT me, or DOWN to me, as you have. 
They also know that this explains my annoyance with people who can't be 
bothered with doing things at the appropriate time, and who talk without 
listening. Just so you know though, I've spent almost 6 years fighting 
with members of the US Federal government who are more concerned with 
themselves being happy, than getting on with the job at hand, I've spent 
2 months having a similar battle with a department of the Georgia State 
Government, I'll be damned if the same kind of self-important arrogant 
blow hard will stamp his feet and act petulantly, complaining that 
no-one's listening to him, and that he has the keys to heaven and the 
code to immortality.

For several months now you've talked and talked and talked, but DONE 
**nothing**. I've developed a bit of a reputation for being trite, but 
in comparison, I'm writing haiku's. However, I've tried to move things 
along. I took part in the drafting of the manifestos, I've tried to keep 
invovled with everything as best I can and keep communication going. 
Yes, the dutch party might be small, but so are most. The US party is 
incredibly small (It's mainly me and Glenn that's been doing stuff for 
the last 5-6 months), and yet, Rick sent me a link Monday, about a piece 
in SvD (the same paper that ran the favourable pieces about Piratpartiet 
2 weeks ago) talking about Obama's Department of Justice nominations, 
which included links to the Us Pirate Party (and Cnet had a similar link 
when it did the same story). Despite there being two of you, or 35, or 
however many, put your efforts into making a viable party, getting some 
notice, instead of trying to show how smart you are here by giving a 10 
page footnoted email every 20 minutes. Write it simply, or don't write 
it. Put the effort into something productive, and maybe get something to 
show from it. The US party gets media coverage, the Swedish party gets 
coverage, the German party gets coverage - because we put our effort 
into that. You put your effort into your emails, rather than your party. 
To quote Shrek 'you think he might be compensating for something'?

Put your effort where your mouth is. Don't talk about doing, DO, THEN 
talk about having done.

Andrew
(I said I was longwinded!)
Don't take this as a flame, take it as the same sort of thing we've had 
from you for the last month or two.

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