[pp.int.general] RiP: A Remix Manifesto
glenn.kerbein at pirate-party.us
Tue May 19 17:57:18 CEST 2009
I still feel that Doctorow still has the same ideology as a majority of
us do. The PPUS does not believe in complete copyright abolition, and
I've spoken with people on both sides of the spectrum. Usually, when
someone says "pirate party," the listener(s) assume that the speaker is
talking about the Swedish party (extremist abolitionists [No offense,
Rick]); so I don't blame them entirely. It is a shame that Doctorow was
so intent on outright ignoring you though. He spoke in great lengths as
to why he was apart of the "copyfight" on Locus Mag:
I've been in contact with extremists who want perpetual copyright, and
have heard them speak on public radio (NPR). (See this Lessig post:
). As well as intellectuals whom advocate and write about complete
abolition: http://pirate-party.us/node/46 .
coretx at piratenpartij.nl wrote:
> Verry interesting. But please scrap Cory Doctorow from the "interesting"
> He insults the pirate partys by calling us for example a bunch of
> And not worthy to be taken seriously. Once, i did try to talk to him on a
> Picnic panel discussion i went to with Wybo.
> When i mentioned being a pirate party member ( And therefore being there )
> , he made the organisation mute the microphone!
> While a woman from XS4all took a stand for me, and the rest of the room was
> filled with industry puppets...
> To make it even more hilarious: the topic was "Creative Money Salon" , and
> you can gues the context.
> On Mon, 18 May 2009 20:43:23 -0700, Glenn Kerbein
> <glenn.kerbein at pirate-party.us> wrote:
>> Dear fellow pirates:
>> A contact on an IRC channel I idle in pointed out a documentary
>> recently released and available for download: Brett Gaylor's RiP! A
>> Remix Manifeso. I figured
>> that since we are all in different time zones or not on IRC constantly
>> (myself included), I may as well share my opinion on the matter.
>> The film is an intricate balance between contemporary remix culture and
>> how past media has been remixed. Topics of interest cover Greg Gillis,
>> colloquially known as Girl Talk, Cory Doctorow, and Walt Disney. Not
>> only does the film cover the overt ignorance towards remixers, but also
>> how patent law has stifled scientific research. All in all, I thought
>> the film was an excellent watch, but not something completely unique.
>> Good Copy, Bad Copy covered this topic in great detail (traveling
>> anywhere from Denmark, Nigeria, Baltimore, Sweden, and the UK) and Steal
>> This Film 2 touched on the issue. This film hits home for me: the core
>> principles of overt, overbroad, copyright breadth is why I am here; I
>> may not agree that The Pirate Bay Four should be vindicated, but I agree
>> (in one way or another) that the litigation surrounding copyright law
>> should be changed for the better.
>> B-Side and EyeSteelFilm (co-producers) have the film for purchase and
>> download for US users only. Gaylor is using the Radiohead method of
>> purchase (pay what you want) and has a Screener ISO as well as a .mov of
>> the film to download.
>> I am inclined to hold a screening myself for the film. The idea hasn't
>> quite solidified quite yet, though; I'm thinking I'd hold it somewhere
>> in Silicon Valley. What better place to show a film about "intellectual
>> property" than at the heart of the tech industry. If that doesn't work
>> out, I've already begun making a mashup of my own, incorporating
>> segments of aforementioned films.
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Glenn "Channel6" Kerbein
Pirate Party of the United States
"Burn, Hollywood, Burn"
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