[pp.int.general] One good, one bad

Jerry Weyer jerry.weyer at piratepartei.lu
Wed Nov 4 12:18:35 CET 2009


On 4 nov. 09, at 12:07, Christian Hufgard wrote:

> So what do we have now? We still have our national states, that have  
> in
> fact only very little to decide

They just signed (executive) and ratified (national parliaments) the  
Lisbon treaty! Also they decided to delegate some of their powers to  
the EU. And with the new treaty they can decide to leave the EU even  
more easily.

> , and a superstate above, that is not
> democratically legitimized.

"Superstate" is not a very precise term, and it would be suprastate if  
you say it's above. First of all the EU is not a state as I said. It's  
getting closer, but it's still a good step away from becoming one.  
It's above/super/supra the member stats in the way those national,  
supreme states accepted it to be. The EU is not Godzilla who came out  
of the ocean, it was build, but the member states, with their consent!  
Cf. above for more info about the powers the states have.

Democratically legitimized is difficult to assess. When are you  
democratically legitimized? If your elected? All the members of the  
Council, the Commission or the Parliament are elected!

Jerry




More information about the pp.international.general mailing list