[pp.int.general] Big Brother in NL?

coretx coretx at piratenpartij.nl
Thu Nov 19 20:05:07 CET 2009


Funny, that a Danish man coins the typical "dike" respons.
Some people jokingly say, that if the sea level rises, the Danish,  
Germans and Flemish will have extra trouble.
Because of dutch dikes, and pumping water outside of our borders.
If there are no dikes and "Gemalen" ; water pumps, the "Amersfoort at  
sea" Scenario is more than plausible.

As you can see at these pictures;

http://www.internetweer.nl/zonderdijken.htm
http://www.dearend.nl/WeatherLink/nieuws/2007/zee_rijst_niet_pan_uit/ahn-nederland1.jpg

This shows that , 2 or 5 meters can be manageable. ( But not  
desirable! )
However, more than 5 meters would almost double the square kilometers  
of land that need protection
In that scenario, you could probably just as well create land out of  
the North Sea.

Keep in mind that in 1953, there was a mayor disaster in the  
Netherlands.
Destroying/flooding almost an entire province.
At that time, the average dike height was aprox. 4 meters above NAP.
And we learned from that disaster.

The dutch should not fear raising sea levels, but their government  
investing not enough money into
dike maintenance. Since that, _could_ become a real treat in the future.

On Nov 19, 2009, at 7:27 PM, Ole Husgaard wrote:

> Richard Stallman wrote:
>> How much of the Netherlands will be flooded if seas rise 2 meters?
>> If they rise 5 meters?
>>
>
> Reinier Bakels answer is probably more precise, as he is from the
> Netherlands. But none of you seem to have considered what dikes  
> (keeping
> the sea out, not the sexual orientation) mean.
>
> In both the 2 meter and the 5 meter case it is possible to say:  
> Nothing,
> if the dikes can be built high enough. There is just a higher risk of
> the sea breaking through the dikes.
>
> Perhaps Reinier can answer this question: How much of the Netherlands
> would be flooded today if there were no dikes?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ole Husgaard.
>
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