[pp.int.general] About TELECOM statement.

[aloa5]

Hello,

I´d left my point of view at Engströms blog here:
http://christianengstrom.wordpress.com/2009/11/05/telecom-package-final-agreed-text/
starting with #125 and following.

It based on some consultations e.g. of lawyers. One of the sites/lawyers 
is an austrian wich explained a bit more his point of view because of my 
intervention.

I´d like to show you this because its really near truth:
(google-translation works for this I think; if not ask me please):

http://translate.google.de/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Flehofer.at%2Fblog%2F2009%2F11%2Fnochmals-zur-neuen-internet-freiheit.html&sl=de&tl=en


Perhaps fact: a milestone for parliament - but the civil rights were 
more lost or even are not affected.

I would (from here in Germany) have prefered a "no", indeed. And after 
researches I am irritated. Does the Green Fraction (or even Reding) in 
EP does not have lawyers (or any platforms) they can ask before?


Regards
Otmar
(alias aloa5)





ninHer schrieb:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi:
> 
> 
> 
> First of all, and have been awaiting some time for some kind of reply 
> from some pirate party, I'd like to say that we in PIRATA do not agree 
> <http://www.partidopirata.es/blog/el-partido-pirata-espanol-se-desliga-del-voto-en-el-paquete-telecom-del-eurodiputado-pirata-sueco/> 
> with the explanation of the YES given by Mr.Engström to the Telecom 
> Package. Specially and specifically to the part regarding that any kind 
> of court would block internet access and restrict other civic rights and 
> liberties. For example, here in Spain, this is only possible if a real 
> judge from a real court gives green light to it, e.g., to seize 
> publications, to wiretap communications and to make home registers. 
> Obviously to cut off internet access includes everything listed and much 
> more.
> 
> Have all of you (pirate parties) agreed with Engström's statement 
> <http://christianengstrom.wordpress.com/2009/11/06/landmarks-in-the-telecoms-text/>?. 
> If you do, why? And if you do not, why either?
> 
> Apart from this, in the light of Uppsala Declaration 
> <http://www.piratpartiet.se/nyheter/european_pirate_platform_2009> which 
> states the need to “adhere to the highest standards of democracy” and 
> also follow.”principles as transparent government”, and considering that 
> the pirate movement actually has one MEP in the Europarliament (going to 
> be two beginning in December 1st 2009), is going to be normal and 
> frequent having Swedish Piratpartiet MEPs visiting the PPI list in order to:
> 
>     * explain their parliamentary activity,
>     * explain what do they vote and why, and
>     * make themselves available to the applause or criticism from the
>       rest of pirate parties?
> 
> Best regards.
> 
> 
> Enrique Errea.
> 
> II. RR. Spanish Pirate Party (PIRATA).
> 
> 
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