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2010/1/22 Patrick Maechler v/o Valio <pirate at valio.ch>:
> > There are now 3 groups in the US which claim the caption "pirate party"
> > in their name.
> >
>
> They should really see if they can merge; the current situation makes
> them all look non-credible.
>
> --
> Philip Hunt, <cabalamat at googlemail.com>
>

Let a thousand flowers bloom. My impression of USPP is that it remains a
structure without much of a movement behind it, for whatever reason, while
the APP at this point is a highly enthusiastic movement which has yet to
develop a structure. While it might seem logical for them to fuse,
organizational mergers are easier said than done, and the APP is clearly
going for a 'broad' as opposed to 'narrow' strategy. Proof of the pudding is
in the eating; what works, works. Single issue may just be unsuited to the
US political system, rebranding can sell a similar product, and
contingencies of personality and chance are non-trivial.


>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:31:30 -0700
> From: "Brittany P." <simbelmyne08 at gmail.com>
>
> The USPP has been regularly in contact with members of the APP in hopes of
> facilitating a merge or changing their name to differentiate the two
> parties, but such suggestions have been met with dismissal or contempt,
> unfortunately.
>
> Brittany
>


If you're hoping to ever merge, a slightly more diplomatic attitude might be
an asset.
Merely a suggestion.

But collaboration to build the grounds of trust for a merge, or just to
support and cooperate when appropriate, seems better than taking the issue
as one of antagonism and competition. What a Buddhist would call 'skilful
means'.

APP may go nowhere, a burst of enthusiasm and shiny internet raptor-memes,
or continue. I'm still heartened to see the manifestations of Pirate
politics worldwide, whatever their diversity.

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2010/1/22 Patrick Maechler v/o Valio &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pirate at valio.ch"=
>pirate at valio.ch</a>&gt;:<br>
&gt; There are now 3 groups in the US which claim the caption &quot;pirate =
party&quot;<br>
&gt; in their name.<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
They should really see if they can merge; the current situation makes<br>
them all look non-credible.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Philip Hunt, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cabalamat at googlemail.com">cabalamat at goog=
lemail.com</a>&gt;<br></blockquote><div><br>Let a thousand flowers bloom. M=
y impression of USPP is that it remains a structure without much of a movem=
ent behind it, for whatever reason, while the APP at this point is a highly=
 enthusiastic movement which has yet to develop a structure. While it might=
 seem logical for them to fuse, organizational mergers are easier said than=
 done, and the APP is clearly going for a &#39;broad&#39; as opposed to &#3=
9;narrow&#39; strategy. Proof of the pudding is in the eating; what works, =
works. Single issue may just be unsuited to the US political system, rebran=
ding can sell a similar product, and contingencies of personality and chanc=
e are non-trivial.<br>
=A0<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px so=
lid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:31:30 -0700<br>
From: &quot;Brittany P.&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simbelmyne08 at gmail.com"=
>simbelmyne08 at gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
The USPP has been regularly in contact with members of the APP in hopes of<=
br>
facilitating a merge or changing their name to differentiate the two<br>
parties, but such suggestions have been met with dismissal or contempt,<br>
unfortunately.<br>
<br>
Brittany<br></blockquote><div><br><br>If you&#39;re hoping to ever merge, a=
 slightly more diplomatic attitude might be an asset.<br>Merely a suggestio=
n. <br><br>But collaboration to build the grounds of trust for a merge, or =
just to support and cooperate when appropriate, seems better than taking th=
e issue as one of antagonism and competition. What a Buddhist would call &#=
39;skilful means&#39;.<br>
<br>APP may go nowhere, a burst of enthusiasm and shiny internet raptor-mem=
es, or continue. I&#39;m still heartened to see the manifestations of Pirat=
e politics worldwide, whatever their diversity.<br></div><div>=A0<br><br>
</div></div>

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