[pp.int.general] La Quadrature du Net: Amendment 138 dead by lack of courage of the Parliament

[Félix Robles]

Christian says:

*"*
> *It contains, as I said a "prior", and the more I think about it all the
> more fond I become of the statement that the closures will only take place
> under "exceptional circumstances". No man can of course argue that it would
> be something exceptional with someone being accused of file sharing.
> According to the IFPI itself it's around 3 million people in Sweden alone
> dealing with it. ;)
> *
>
*"*


When he talks about "exceptional circumstances" he is talking about this
part of the text<http://www.laquadrature.net/wiki/EP_Flawed_Proposal_20091020>
:*

*

*"**"3a. Measures taken by Member States regarding end-users' access to or
use of services and applications through electronic communications
networks[...]*
*Any such measures liable to restrict those fundamental rights or freedoms
may only be taken in exceptional circumstances and imposed if they are
necessary, appropriate and proportionate within a democratic society*"

But, as they say at La Quadrature, "exceptional circumstances",
"appropriate", "necessary" are vague terms and are very open to
interpretation. Those terms should be removed and replaced with others that
are crystal clear and specific.

When he says it contains "prior", I hope he's talking about "prior ruling by
the judicial authorities" , and in that case, I hope that the prior ruling
is also necessary even on "exceptional circumstances" and you all know what
I mean...

Regards,

Felix Robles


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Correction:"Christian Engström (PPSE MEP) wrote a interesting blog entry
> about he perceived things yesterday so you may want to have a look at my
> translation:"
>
> Hmm, so easy to get lost in translation..
>
>
> - Nicolas
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Christian Engström (PPSE MEP) wrote a interesting blog entry about he
>> preserved things yesterday so you may want to have a look at my translation:
>> http://etherpad.com/02r8u558Lb
>>
>> Please do not hesitate to release it to the press and you can do
>> adjustments on EtherPad in case needed, but let me know for larger changes
>> so we do not get completely lost in translation.. ;)
>>
>> No, I did not translate all referred documents such as Hax blog entry etc,
>> besides EtherPad does not support linking.. It would be nice if someone
>> was hired to do these translations in Brussels for the case of transparency.
>>
>>
>> - Nicolas
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> This is how it can go in a odd place like EU negotiations..
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.laquadrature.net/en/amendment-138-dead-by-lack-of-courage-of-the-parliament
>>>
>>> - Nicolas
>>>
>>
>>
>
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