[pp.int.general] The Pirate Bay and the Pirate Party
Glenn Kerbein
glenn.kerbein at pirate-party.us
Sun Oct 25 20:23:07 CET 2009
Agreed.
Furthermore, your argument about indexers is poor at best. Google has
agents to handle takedown requests for YouTube, images, and the sites it
indexes. See Viacom v. Youtube. The Pirate Bay /prides itself/ on not
employing any takedown agents (thus not having the safe harbor clause).
I suggest that you peruse Professor James Boyle's The Public Domain
(particularly the chapter entitled "The Internet Threat"): he waxes
eloquently about the subject of Napster and Grokster.
Charly wrote:
> I think it becomes a problem when people are confused about the
> distinction between the two organisations. I've heard people calling us
> the "Pirate Bay Party" (cringe).
> Boundaries between TPB and PP need to be made clear.
> Charly
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com
> <mailto:nicco77 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> TPB is a index engine like Google and both indexes torrents where
> Google actually hold infringed content via YouTube and Google Books
> while PP's does neither.
>
> I know politics is so sensitive and therefore the crappy argument,
> but would we exist without Napster, TPB etc? It kinda feels silly to
> deny once relatives..
>
>
> - Nicolas
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Glenn Kerbein
> <glenn.kerbein at pirate-party.us
> <mailto:glenn.kerbein at pirate-party.us>> wrote:
>
> I'm going to side with RMS on this.
>
> Richard Stallman wrote:
> > If TPB promotes the Pirate Party, it would tend to support the
> statements
> > that some people make that "You're just a bunch of criminals."
> > This might be a reason not to do it.
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