[pp.int.general] The Pirate Bay and the Pirate Party
Félix Robles
redeadlink at gmail.com
Sun Oct 25 20:41:22 CET 2009
But why should Google or any other webpage have to remove links to torrent
files? That's like removing from a webpage the GPS coordinates of a knife.
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Glenn Kerbein <
glenn.kerbein at pirate-party.us> wrote:
> Agreed.
> Furthermore, your argument about indexers is poor at best. Google has
> agents to handle takedown requests for YouTube, images, and the sites it
> indexes. See Viacom v. Youtube. The Pirate Bay /prides itself/ on not
> employing any takedown agents (thus not having the safe harbor clause).
> I suggest that you peruse Professor James Boyle's The Public Domain
> (particularly the chapter entitled "The Internet Threat"): he waxes
> eloquently about the subject of Napster and Grokster.
>
> Charly wrote:
> > I think it becomes a problem when people are confused about the
> > distinction between the two organisations. I've heard people calling us
> > the "Pirate Bay Party" (cringe).
> > Boundaries between TPB and PP need to be made clear.
> > Charly
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com
> > <mailto:nicco77 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > TPB is a index engine like Google and both indexes torrents where
> > Google actually hold infringed content via YouTube and Google Books
> > while PP's does neither.
> >
> > I know politics is so sensitive and therefore the crappy argument,
> > but would we exist without Napster, TPB etc? It kinda feels silly to
> > deny once relatives..
> >
> >
> > - Nicolas
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Glenn Kerbein
> > <glenn.kerbein at pirate-party.us
> > <mailto:glenn.kerbein at pirate-party.us>> wrote:
> >
> > I'm going to side with RMS on this.
> >
> > Richard Stallman wrote:
> > > If TPB promotes the Pirate Party, it would tend to support the
> > statements
> > > that some people make that "You're just a bunch of criminals."
> > > This might be a reason not to do it.
> > > ____________________________________________________
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> > --
> > Glenn "Channel6" Kerbein
> > United States Pirate Party
> > "Burn, Hollywood, Burn"
> > http://www.pirate-party.us/
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> >
> >
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> --
> Glenn "Channel6" Kerbein
> United States Pirate Party
> "Burn, Hollywood, Burn"
> http://www.pirate-party.us/
> ____________________________________________________
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