[pp.int.general] The Pirate Bay and the Pirate Party

[Glenn Kerbein]

That doesn't make a bit of sense.

Félix Robles wrote:
> But why should Google or any other webpage have to remove links to
> torrent files? That's like removing from a webpage the GPS coordinates
> of a knife.
> 
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Glenn Kerbein
> <glenn.kerbein at pirate-party.us <mailto:glenn.kerbein at pirate-party.us>>
> wrote:
> 
>     Agreed.
>     Furthermore, your argument about indexers is poor at best. Google has
>     agents to handle takedown requests for YouTube, images, and the sites it
>     indexes. See Viacom v. Youtube. The Pirate Bay /prides itself/ on not
>     employing any takedown agents (thus not having the safe harbor clause).
>     I suggest that you peruse Professor James Boyle's The Public Domain
>     (particularly the chapter entitled "The Internet Threat"): he waxes
>     eloquently about the subject of Napster and Grokster.
> 
>     Charly wrote:
>     > I think it becomes a problem when people are confused about the
>     > distinction between the two organisations. I've heard people
>     calling us
>     > the "Pirate Bay Party" (cringe).
>     > Boundaries between TPB and PP need to be made clear.
>     > Charly
>     >
>     >
>     > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Nicolas Sahlqvist
>     <nicco77 at gmail.com <mailto:nicco77 at gmail.com>
>     > <mailto:nicco77 at gmail.com <mailto:nicco77 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     TPB is a index engine like Google and both indexes torrents where
>     >     Google actually hold infringed content via YouTube and Google
>     Books
>     >     while PP's does neither.
>     >
>     >     I know politics is so sensitive and therefore the crappy argument,
>     >     but would we exist without Napster, TPB etc? It kinda feels
>     silly to
>     >     deny once relatives..
>     >
>     >
>     >     - Nicolas
>     >
>     >
>     >     On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Glenn Kerbein
>     >     <glenn.kerbein at pirate-party.us
>     <mailto:glenn.kerbein at pirate-party.us>
>     >     <mailto:glenn.kerbein at pirate-party.us
>     <mailto:glenn.kerbein at pirate-party.us>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >         I'm going to side with RMS on this.
>     >
>     >         Richard Stallman wrote:
>     >         > If TPB promotes the Pirate Party, it would tend to
>     support the
>     >         statements
>     >         > that some people make that "You're just a bunch of
>     criminals."
>     >         > This might be a reason not to do it.
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United States Pirate Party
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