[pp.int.general] The Pirate Bay and the Pirate Party

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Telling us /why/ it does not make sense, would be a much more valuable  
contribution to a constructive debate.
In my personal opinion,  it would more be like google removing 3 GPS  
coordinates, which could be used by the reader
for triangulation of the knife location.While the user is doing the  
math using the services of a third party who does nothing but calculate.

On Oct 25, 2009, at 8:56 PM, Glenn Kerbein wrote:

> That doesn't make a bit of sense.
>
> Félix Robles wrote:
>> But why should Google or any other webpage have to remove links to
>> torrent files? That's like removing from a webpage the GPS  
>> coordinates
>> of a knife.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Glenn Kerbein
>> <glenn.kerbein at pirate-party.us <mailto:glenn.kerbein at pirate- 
>> party.us>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>    Agreed.
>>    Furthermore, your argument about indexers is poor at best.  
>> Google has
>>    agents to handle takedown requests for YouTube, images, and the  
>> sites it
>>    indexes. See Viacom v. Youtube. The Pirate Bay /prides itself/  
>> on not
>>    employing any takedown agents (thus not having the safe harbor  
>> clause).
>>    I suggest that you peruse Professor James Boyle's The Public  
>> Domain
>>    (particularly the chapter entitled "The Internet Threat"): he  
>> waxes
>>    eloquently about the subject of Napster and Grokster.
>>
>>    Charly wrote:
>>> I think it becomes a problem when people are confused about the
>>> distinction between the two organisations. I've heard people
>>    calling us
>>> the "Pirate Bay Party" (cringe).
>>> Boundaries between TPB and PP need to be made clear.
>>> Charly
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Nicolas Sahlqvist
>>    <nicco77 at gmail.com <mailto:nicco77 at gmail.com>
>>> <mailto:nicco77 at gmail.com <mailto:nicco77 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>    TPB is a index engine like Google and both indexes torrents where
>>>    Google actually hold infringed content via YouTube and Google
>>    Books
>>>    while PP's does neither.
>>>
>>>    I know politics is so sensitive and therefore the crappy  
>>> argument,
>>>    but would we exist without Napster, TPB etc? It kinda feels
>>    silly to
>>>    deny once relatives..
>>>
>>>
>>>    - Nicolas
>>>
>>>
>>>    On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Glenn Kerbein
>>>    <glenn.kerbein at pirate-party.us
>>    <mailto:glenn.kerbein at pirate-party.us>
>>>    <mailto:glenn.kerbein at pirate-party.us
>>    <mailto:glenn.kerbein at pirate-party.us>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>        I'm going to side with RMS on this.
>>>
>>>        Richard Stallman wrote:
>>>> If TPB promotes the Pirate Party, it would tend to
>>    support the
>>>        statements
>>>> that some people make that "You're just a bunch of
>>    criminals."
>>>> This might be a reason not to do it.
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>>>        United States Pirate Party
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>>    United States Pirate Party
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> "Burn, Hollywood, Burn"
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