[pp.int.general] La Quadrature du Net: Amendment 138 dead by lack of courage of the Parliament

[Nicolas Sahlqvist]

Ahh, OpenEurope (the think-tank) has a 40 pages report I missed to link
here:

http://www.openeurope.org.uk/research/howtheeuiswatchingyou.pdf

Seems interesting, need to read it through..


- Nicolas
  PPI / PPSE member


On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com>wrote:

> A UK think-thank has a somewhat gloomier picture:
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> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/6440812/Lisbon-Treaty-will-usher-in-European-surveillance-state.html
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> I am sure the other governments follows UK's example..
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>
> - Nicolas
>   PPI / PPSE member
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Amelia Andersdotter <teirdes at gmail.com>wrote:
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>>
>>
>> 2009/10/23 Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com>
>>
>> Does the treaty of Lisbon have any effect on this?
>>>
>>>
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>> For the UK in particular, the EU at large has meant a massive influx of
>> legislation. Up until the early 1990s the UK government passed about 18
>> legislative acts per year, after 1997 more than a thousand.
>>
>> But this is because of the clash between Napoleonic/Germanic law and the
>> Common Law systems: Common Law is based on case law, whereas the rest of
>> Europe relies on legislative acts (that  are of course also interpreted in
>> case law).
>>
>> The Lisbon Treaty will likely force the UK to continue passing legislative
>> acts, unless they give directives direct effect (presumably) in UK courts.
>> However, legislative acts aren't necessarily a bad thing: for one, it is
>> easier for me as a citizen to look of the state regulations on sewers than
>> try to locate sewer-related case law in the official journal of the high
>> court.
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>>>
>>> - Nicolas
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>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:22 AM, El Tres <pirat at eltres.de> wrote:
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>>>> Am 23.10.2009 um 00:16 schrieb Eric Priezkalns <
>>>> eric.priezkalns at pirateparty.org.uk>:
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>>>>
>>>>> [UK]   A constitution may exist, even if it is unwritten.  Such a
>>>>> constitution may be stronger than one written on a piece of paper, but where
>>>>> people don't do what the words on the paper say.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Hear, Hear!
>>>>
>>>> El Tres
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