[pp.int.general] La Quadrature du Net: Amendment 138 dead by lack of courage of the Parliament

[Nicolas Sahlqvist]

Ok, trying to get back to topic, it seems like US are more open in there
ideas towards net neutrality:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=26475

And the spokes (MI5 etc.) does not seem to be interested in Political ideas
of shutting down internet connections etc. since that would even make their
work harder, people tend to enable encryption then..

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6885923.ece

So there are some bright light at the tunnel it seems with support from the
strangest places.


- Nicolas


On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:47 AM, Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Ahh, OpenEurope (the think-tank) has a 40 pages report I missed to link
> here:
>
> http://www.openeurope.org.uk/research/howtheeuiswatchingyou.pdf
>
> Seems interesting, need to read it through..
>
>
> - Nicolas
>   PPI / PPSE member
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> A UK think-thank has a somewhat gloomier picture:
>>
>>
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/6440812/Lisbon-Treaty-will-usher-in-European-surveillance-state.html
>>
>> I am sure the other governments follows UK's example..
>>
>>
>> - Nicolas
>>   PPI / PPSE member
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Amelia Andersdotter <teirdes at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/10/23 Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Does the treaty of Lisbon have any effect on this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> For the UK in particular, the EU at large has meant a massive influx of
>>> legislation. Up until the early 1990s the UK government passed about 18
>>> legislative acts per year, after 1997 more than a thousand.
>>>
>>> But this is because of the clash between Napoleonic/Germanic law and the
>>> Common Law systems: Common Law is based on case law, whereas the rest of
>>> Europe relies on legislative acts (that  are of course also interpreted in
>>> case law).
>>>
>>> The Lisbon Treaty will likely force the UK to continue passing
>>> legislative acts, unless they give directives direct effect (presumably) in
>>> UK courts. However, legislative acts aren't necessarily a bad thing: for
>>> one, it is easier for me as a citizen to look of the state regulations on
>>> sewers than try to locate sewer-related case law in the official journal of
>>> the high court.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Nicolas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:22 AM, El Tres <pirat at eltres.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 23.10.2009 um 00:16 schrieb Eric Priezkalns <
>>>>> eric.priezkalns at pirateparty.org.uk>:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> [UK]   A constitution may exist, even if it is unwritten.  Such a
>>>>>> constitution may be stronger than one written on a piece of paper, but where
>>>>>> people don't do what the words on the paper say.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hear, Hear!
>>>>>
>>>>> El Tres
>>>>>
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