[pp.int.general] La Quadrature du Net: Amendment 138 dead by lack of courage of the Parliament

[Nicolas Sahlqvist]

I did a further analyze of the US standpoint towards net neutrality and in
the 2nd FCC document I found a interesting playing with the word "lawful":

"-The draft nondiscrimination principle would require that, subject to
reasonable
network management, a provider of broadband Internet access service must
treat
lawful content, applications, and services in a nondiscriminatory manner."

"– Prevent unlawful transfers of content
  (copyright infringement)"

http://i.zdnet.com/blogs/fcc-presentation.pdf?tag=col1;post-26475

We (PPUS etc.) could argue that checking if something is "lawful" or not
requires breaking net neutrality and privacy.


- Nicolas
   PPI / PPSE member


On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Ok, trying to get back to topic, it seems like US are more open in there
> ideas towards net neutrality:
>
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=26475
>
> And the spokes (MI5 etc.) does not seem to be interested in Political ideas
> of shutting down internet connections etc. since that would even make their
> work harder, people tend to enable encryption then..
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6885923.ece
>
> So there are some bright light at the tunnel it seems with support from the
> strangest places.
>
>
> - Nicolas
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:47 AM, Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Ahh, OpenEurope (the think-tank) has a 40 pages report I missed to link
>> here:
>>
>> http://www.openeurope.org.uk/research/howtheeuiswatchingyou.pdf
>>
>> Seems interesting, need to read it through..
>>
>>
>> - Nicolas
>>   PPI / PPSE member
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> A UK think-thank has a somewhat gloomier picture:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/6440812/Lisbon-Treaty-will-usher-in-European-surveillance-state.html
>>>
>>> I am sure the other governments follows UK's example..
>>>
>>>
>>> - Nicolas
>>>   PPI / PPSE member
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Amelia Andersdotter <teirdes at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2009/10/23 Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> Does the treaty of Lisbon have any effect on this?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For the UK in particular, the EU at large has meant a massive influx of
>>>> legislation. Up until the early 1990s the UK government passed about 18
>>>> legislative acts per year, after 1997 more than a thousand.
>>>>
>>>> But this is because of the clash between Napoleonic/Germanic law and the
>>>> Common Law systems: Common Law is based on case law, whereas the rest of
>>>> Europe relies on legislative acts (that  are of course also interpreted in
>>>> case law).
>>>>
>>>> The Lisbon Treaty will likely force the UK to continue passing
>>>> legislative acts, unless they give directives direct effect (presumably) in
>>>> UK courts. However, legislative acts aren't necessarily a bad thing: for
>>>> one, it is easier for me as a citizen to look of the state regulations on
>>>> sewers than try to locate sewer-related case law in the official journal of
>>>> the high court.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - Nicolas
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:22 AM, El Tres <pirat at eltres.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 23.10.2009 um 00:16 schrieb Eric Priezkalns <
>>>>>> eric.priezkalns at pirateparty.org.uk>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [UK]   A constitution may exist, even if it is unwritten.  Such a
>>>>>>> constitution may be stronger than one written on a piece of paper, but where
>>>>>>> people don't do what the words on the paper say.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hear, Hear!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> El Tres
>>>>>>
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