[pp.int.general] La Quadrature du Net: Amendment 138 dead by lack of courage of the Parliament

Nicolas Sahlqvist nicco77 at gmail.com
Tue Oct 27 13:59:06 CET 2009


I think you should read the document from the OpenEurope UK think-tank,
it exemplifies how EU does not work and gives us tons of stuff to work on in
the coming years. After reading it I am not surprised that the Czech
president supports a court to decide if it violates the Czech constitution
before signing:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/czechrepublic/6443569/Lisbon-Treaty-Czech-court-to-consider-reforms.html



- Nicolas
  PPI / PPSE member


On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:47 AM, Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Ahh, OpenEurope (the think-tank) has a 40 pages report I missed to link
> here:
>
> http://www.openeurope.org.uk/research/howtheeuiswatchingyou.pdf
>
> Seems interesting, need to read it through..
>
>
> - Nicolas
>   PPI / PPSE member
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> A UK think-thank has a somewhat gloomier picture:
>>
>>
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/6440812/Lisbon-Treaty-will-usher-in-European-surveillance-state.html
>>
>> I am sure the other governments follows UK's example..
>>
>>
>> - Nicolas
>>   PPI / PPSE member
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Amelia Andersdotter <teirdes at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/10/23 Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Does the treaty of Lisbon have any effect on this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> For the UK in particular, the EU at large has meant a massive influx of
>>> legislation. Up until the early 1990s the UK government passed about 18
>>> legislative acts per year, after 1997 more than a thousand.
>>>
>>> But this is because of the clash between Napoleonic/Germanic law and the
>>> Common Law systems: Common Law is based on case law, whereas the rest of
>>> Europe relies on legislative acts (that  are of course also interpreted in
>>> case law).
>>>
>>> The Lisbon Treaty will likely force the UK to continue passing
>>> legislative acts, unless they give directives direct effect (presumably) in
>>> UK courts. However, legislative acts aren't necessarily a bad thing: for
>>> one, it is easier for me as a citizen to look of the state regulations on
>>> sewers than try to locate sewer-related case law in the official journal of
>>> the high court.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Nicolas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:22 AM, El Tres <pirat at eltres.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 23.10.2009 um 00:16 schrieb Eric Priezkalns <
>>>>> eric.priezkalns at pirateparty.org.uk>:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> [UK]   A constitution may exist, even if it is unwritten.  Such a
>>>>>> constitution may be stronger than one written on a piece of paper, but where
>>>>>> people don't do what the words on the paper say.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hear, Hear!
>>>>>
>>>>> El Tres
>>>>>
>>>>>
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