[pp.int.general] Mandelson wants crackdown on filesharing

[Joonas Mäkinen]

I simply hope that this kind of power abuse will be never be an issue to the
pirates.

2009/10/29 Eric Priezkalns <eric.priezkalns at pirateparty.org.uk>

> I suspect the truth is more about political tactics than principles.  UK's
> Labour government is desperate to win endorsements from Big Media in the
> run-up to next year's election.  A simple way to do that is to make it sound
> like they would be tough on the issues that Big Media cares about.  If they
> win the election, they can always sort out the details afterwards, including
> making compromises to keep voters and ISPs happy.  If they lose the
> election, this won't matter to them anyway.
>
> E
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>  On 29 Oct 2009, at 15:56, Joonas Mäkinen wrote:
>
>  Just wanted to express my amazement that they actually go with this even
> when 70 percent of the population does not want it, the secret service does
> not want it and the Internet service providers do not want it. Seriously,
> how deaf are these people?
>
> But I suppose a trial is better than a full launch. If it fails
> spectacularly they might notice that it didn't change filesharing and that
> it cost anstronomical amounts of money for nothing.
>
> 2009/10/29 Andrew Norton <ktetch at gmail.com>
>
>> Also, just a heads up on the legislation here. I contacted the BIS or
>> BERR or whatever its called this week, and asked them about the
>> responses from last months consultation. I was told they'd be
>> published in the 3rd week of November, the same time as the new
>> legislation would be introduced to parliament. I then asked them if
>> they could push up the response publication, in order for some basic
>> peer-review of the submissions, to weed out inaccurate, misleading or
>> flat out wrong statements, so that any legislation would be based on
>> fact, not submissions where the details are hidden (this is a complex
>> subject, and one many of us still are not fully at 100% with - I'm not
>> and I've been covering it in various forms for 10 years - they've got
>> no chance with just a 6week review). Their response was that they
>> would see, but can't promise, as the schedule is not very flexible.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Andrew Robinson
>> <a.robinson at pirateparty.org.uk> wrote:
>> > 2009/10/29 W Tovey <will.tovey at pp-international.net>:
>> >> I guess PPUK needs to gain a bit more notoriety and then maybe we'll
>> start
>> >> getting invited to things like this as well... I can't speak for the
>> >> leadership, but I had no idea this was even happening until I saw the
>> BBC
>> >> article on Mandelson's speech.
>> >
>> > As we are a very new party that has never taken part in a UK election,
>> > we are still treated as a fringe organisation, and we tend not to be
>> > invited to these events. It's noticeable that the quality of event
>> > invitations received are gradually improving, and we are indeed
>> > working our way up to bigger events like this one. I recently spoke at
>> > an event organised by PaidContent, where c&binet had a presence, so
>> > next year we may well get this particular invite, particularly as it
>> > will be after the election.
>> >
>> > The BBC paid more attention to the story than most media outlets,
>> > other journalists have told me it's just 'more of the same' as there
>> > were no new announcements, apart from the very vague "I am announcing
>> > today a Copyright Strategy to take us to the next stage". When the
>> > strategy is actually published, then I expect that PPUK will be at the
>> > centre of the media response.
>> >
>> > - Andrew
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Joonas "JoonasD6" Mäkinen
Varapuheenjohtaja, viceordförande
Piraattinuoret - Piratungdom

Department of Mathematics and Statistics
Faculty of Science
University of Helsinki

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