[pp.int.general] Protest certain musicians?

Ed Galligan ed.galligan at gmail.com
Fri Oct 30 18:20:51 CET 2009


> Technically not. But you use something without compensating the creator.
Again you're using the word "compensate" - what is being compensated -
that's a point of RMS's you didn't address.

> What would you say, if someone uses your code without releasing the new
> software under GPL again? You have no loss in money, there ist just less
> free code than if he had released it under GPL again.
That would (usually) involve the redistribution of the code under another
licence (if not GPL) - noone is proposing re-licencing artists work, so this
analogy is utterly irrelevant.

A better analogy would be "what would you say if someone uses your code
without (a) financially compensating you directly for the copy and (b)
paying you directly each and every time you use the code in a public place,
or use it to create anything new" - this is what the music industry is
claiming is wrong to do with copied music.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 5:58 AM, Christian Hufgard
<pp at christian-hufgard.de>wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> Richard Stallman wrote:
> >> And you really believe, that visiting a single concert can fully
> >> compensate downloading the whole discography?
> >
> > The term "compensate" refers to making up for a loss that you caused.
> > Also, by extension, it refers to pay people who do work for you (your
> > employees and contractors).
>
> If somebody says "instead of buying copies of music, I visit the
> concerts", "compensate" is the right word, I tink.
>
>
> > When people share copies, it does take anything away from anyone, so
> > there is no loss.  Also, the artists are not doing work specifically
> > for these people.  So there is no occasion to "compensate" anyone.
>
> Technically not. But you use something without compensating the creator.
> What would you say, if someone uses your code without releasing the new
> software under GPL again? You have no loss in money, there ist just less
> free code than if he had released it under GPL again.
>
>
> Christian
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