[pp.int.general] an idea comes to me

[coretx]

All nice and well. But please read the following and shiver.

  http://www.itu.int/osg/csd/cybersecurity/WSIS/3rd_meeting_docs/Rutkowski_IPtraceback_callerID_rev0.pdf
  http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb/blog/2008-09/2008-09-04.html
  http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/09/the_nsa_teams_u.html
  http://politechbot.com/docs/itu.traceback.use.cases.requirements.091108.txt
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_traceback
  http://www.politechbot.com/docs/itu.china.internet.traceback.proposal.091108.doc
  http://www.itu.int/md/T05-SG17/new/en/

One day it will be forced by the UN. The workgroup already exists.


On Sep 25, 2009, at 11:04 PM, Ryan Martin wrote:

> What we need are open hardware standards for that open free  
> software.  There
> are already platforms out there now finally.  If we had the money to  
> buy
> enough of any number of solutions, we could go door to door and pretty
> quickly build neighborhood (or even city) intranets.
> All a matter of time and resources, now.   I'm pretty sure we have  
> more or
> less everything we need.
>
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Enrique Herrera Noya
> <quiquetux at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Felipe Sanches escribió:
>>
>>> so... we need free software.
>>>
>>>
>> Are you aware that most of the wireless network adapters require  
>> non-free
>>> firmware (and also non-free driver in many cases) nowadays?
>>>
>>
>> look http://openwrt.org/
>>
>>
>>
>>> We need more wireless hackers engaging in the creation of this  
>>> fundamental
>>> free software based technological support for such ideas!
>>>
>>> Felipe Sanches
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Aleksandar Blagojevic <
>>> piratska.partija.srbije at gmail.com <mailto:
>>> piratska.partija.srbije at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Hello Enrique,
>>>
>>>
>>>   I think that we are shadowed by the modern ways of communication  
>>> and
>>>   do not
>>>   see the the three out of woods.
>>>   I other words, there is a strong dependency on commercial based
>>>   solutions.
>>>   The guideline for that way of thinking is "if I pay it has to work
>>>   for me"
>>>   even not knowing what it really is doin' it...
>>>
>>>   the solution: global awareness:)
>>>   here in Seriba the the main issue that members of Serbian pirate
>>>   party are
>>>   dealing with is to inform&learn the people about how stuff works.
>>>
>>>   Only knowledge can free us all!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 11:01:55 PM, you wrote:
>>>
>>>   Enrique> history repeats itself ...
>>>
>>>
>>>   Enrique> in middle age, information was controlled by the church,
>>>   for it was they
>>>   Enrique> who decided to be copied or edited, at that time, books
>>>   were burned, who
>>>   Enrique> dared to express an opinion not official, were accused  
>>> him
>>>   of heresy.
>>>   Enrique> they had the monopoly on information.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Enrique> today who seek to control information are the publishers
>>>   and governments.
>>>
>>>   Enrique> we face a new wave obscurantist, and as we call this new
>>>   neo-obscurantism.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Enrique> our actions must be put down this situation through
>>>   different media,
>>>   Enrique> (inter-net, traditional paper media, alternative  
>>> networks)
>>>
>>>   Enrique> , is that if there Internet2 (trained by universities),  
>>> we
>>>   could create
>>>   Enrique> a "free network" using wireless systems, thus not  
>>> depend on
>>>   the ISP and
>>>   Enrique> could exchange information freely.
>>>   Enrique> challenges would be the interconnect between cities and
>>>   between continents.
>>>   Enrique>    but by that time, we must first free networks in  
>>> cities.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Enrique> in spanish
>>>   Enrique> la historia se repite
>>>
>>>   Enrique> en la edad media la informacion era controlada por la
>>>   iglesia, pues eran
>>>   Enrique> ellos que decidian que se copiaba o editaba,
>>>   Enrique> en esa epoca se quemaban libros, quien osara emitir una
>>>   opinion no
>>>   Enrique> oficial, se lo sindicaba de hereje. ellos tenian el
>>>   monopolio de la
>>>   Enrique> informacion
>>>
>>>
>>>   Enrique> hoy en dia quienes pretenden controlar la informacion son
>>>   las editoras
>>>   Enrique> y los gobiernos.
>>>
>>>   Enrique> nos enfrentamos a una nueva oleada oscurantista, y como  
>>> es
>>>   nueva
>>>   Enrique> la denominaremos neo-oscurantismo
>>>
>>>
>>>   Enrique> nuestra accion debe estar en debelar esta situacion a  
>>> traves
>>> de
>>>   Enrique> diferentes medios, (inter-net, medios tradicionales de
>>>   papel, redes
>>>   Enrique> alternativas)
>>>
>>>   Enrique> una idea que me surge, es que si existe internet2  
>>> (formadas
>>>   por las
>>>   Enrique> universidades), bien podriamos crear una "red libre"
>>>   utilizando los
>>>   Enrique> sistemas inalambricos, de esa forma no se dependeria de  
>>> los
>>>   ISP y se
>>>   Enrique> podria intercambiar informacion libremente.
>>>   Enrique> los desafios serian la forma interconectar entre  
>>> ciudades y
>>>   entre
>>>   Enrique> continentes. pero para ese punto primero debemos tener
>>>   redes libres en
>>>   Enrique> las ciudades.
>>>   Enrique> ____________________________________________________
>>>   Enrique> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
>>>   Enrique> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>>>   <mailto:pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
>>>   Enrique>
>>>   http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   --
>>>   Best regards,
>>> piratska.partija.srbije at gmail.com
>>>   <mailto:piratska.partija.srbije at gmail.com>
>>>   Aleksandar Blagojevic               admin at piratskapartija.com
>>>   <mailto:admin at piratskapartija.com>
>>>   Serbian Pirte Party founder         http://piratskapartija.com/
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