[pp.int.general] GOODBYE!

Glenn Kerbein glenn.kerbein at pirate-party.us
Fri Apr 16 22:42:11 CEST 2010


I would normally say that it's been a pleasure having intelligent
discussions with you, and that your presence will be missed. That,
however, would be disingenuous.

On 04/16/2010 01:22 PM, Reinier Bakels wrote:
> I have noted today that the PPI has very naive ideas about
> "transparency", allowing journalists to participate in any PP meeting
> they like. Reality is that journalists make a business by serving their
> audience, not the people they report about. The audience is often not
> interested in a precise, "scientific" account, but in controversies,
> scandals etc.
>  
> It is something for intellectuals to foster "open debates". Politics
> basically are business, which means that you only trust someone if it is
> in your own interest. Other perceptions are naive.
>  
> On the Dutch PP mailing list is an attorney that supports copyright
> owners. This is really tough business. He already put me under moral
> pressure (in vain, because I am really independent), and I am sure he
> will exploit all and any weaknesses of Pirates in his efforts to serve
> his clients.
>  
> Are all Pirates really naive? Or are there perhaps (other) trolls among
> us? It all depends on trust. I don't trust someone who has *obviously*
> conflicting interests.
>  
> When I worked in private business, it was always strictly forbidden to
> me to talk to journalists. Well, you may be forced to talk to the to say
> "no", but then I was required to report to management immediately. Was
> this a violation of the principles of a free press? No, it is the
> consequence of a *realistic* perception of the basic conflict of
> interest between journalists and the people they report about. Whether
> you are in business or in politics, you want to achieve results. So you
> fight anyone obstructing your work.
>  
> It is totally naive to invite your ennemy and sit with your in an
> informal setting to have a beer. You may /pretend /an informal setting,
> but then it is still to/ work /on your objectives.     
>  
> GOOD LUCK! GOOD BYE! 
>  
> All wars are dirty in a sense. I won't be part of this       
>  
> Groeten, Grüße, Regards, Cordialement, Hälsningar, Ciao, Saygilar,
> Üdvözlettel, Pozdrowienia, Kumusta, Adiós, Oan't sjen, Ave, Doei,
> Yassou, Yoroshiku, Slán, Vinarliga, Kær Kveðja
>>>> REINIER B. BAKELS PhD LL.M. MSc
> private: Johan Willem Frisostraat 149, 2713 CC Zoetermeer, The
> Netherlands telephone: +31 79 316 3126, GSM ("Handy") +31 6 4988 6490, 
> fax +31 79 316 7221
> 
> 
> 
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Glenn "Channel6" Kerbein
United States Pirate Party
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