[pp.int.general] The conference - what went wrong; how can we do better?

Justus Ršoemeth squig at dfpx.de
Thu Apr 22 23:07:22 CEST 2010


As I wrote before, I don't think PPI should be 'used' for this, but we 
should found a new european party for that.

PPI has a global scope, and in the short and mid-run should be a global 
forum for all the pirate parties to raise their voice, a forum where 
pirate parties can meet and a place hwre people who want to start a 
pirate party in a country where there is none could go to to get 
know-how and helping hands, as well as start-up infrastructure (forum, 
maybe a wiki too?).
If PPI would become the European party of the pirate movement all that 
would be in jeopardy.

On 22.04.10 22:46, Gregory Engels wrote:
>
> On 22.04.2010, at 20:59, Partidul Piratilor wrote:
>
>> . Talking about a European PPI like a political party and make 
>> comparisons with other European examples will be out of the question 
>> for a simple reason: there is no Europe wide political party. Even in 
>> European Parliament they have groups wich unite parties by 
>> similarities, and the groups do not decide what individual parties do. 
>
>
> There are political parties on the european level.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_political_party
> They get funding from the european parliament, even
> if they are not yet in the EP. thefunding has to stay on
> the european level and cannot be used to finance
> national member parties.
>
>     * it must have in *at least one quarter of the Member States*, one
>       or both of the following:
>
>         * *either* it must have *received at least 3% of the votes*
>           cast in each of those Member States at the most recent
>           European Parliament elections.
>         * *or* it must already be *represented by Members*, whether
>           Members of the European Parliament for those states, or
>           Members of the national Parliaments of those states, or
>           Members of the regional Parliaments of those states, or
>           Members of the regional Assemblies of those states.
>
> PPI could change some of its statutes and apply for such a status when 
> we have met these criteria, but this is not yet to decide. We should 
> be represented in parliaments in at least 7 european countries, and i 
> don't see it happen for at least 2 or 3 year at the very optimistic 
> (unrealistic) forecast.
>
> Gregory Engels
> International Coordinator
> Pirate Party of Germany
>
> mobile: +49 172 853 44 91
> skype:gregory.engels
> jabber:dichter at jabber.piratenpartei.de
>
>
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