[pp.int.general] The conference - what went wrong; how can we do better?

Nicolas Sahlqvist nicco77 at gmail.com
Thu Apr 22 23:12:00 CEST 2010


I agree, PPI is not intended to be a party, rather a forum for parties,
thereby the name "Pirate Parties International".


- Nicolas
  PPI


On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Justus Ršoemeth <squig at dfpx.de> wrote:

>  As I wrote before, I don't think PPI should be 'used' for this, but we
> should found a new european party for that.
>
> PPI has a global scope, and in the short and mid-run should be a global
> forum for all the pirate parties to raise their voice, a forum where pirate
> parties can meet and a place hwre people who want to start a pirate party in
> a country where there is none could go to to get know-how and helping hands,
> as well as start-up infrastructure (forum, maybe a wiki too?).
> If PPI would become the European party of the pirate movement all that
> would be in jeopardy.
>
>
> On 22.04.10 22:46, Gregory Engels wrote:
>
>
>   On 22.04.2010, at 20:59, Partidul Piratilor wrote:
>
> . Talking about a European PPI like a political party and make comparisons
> with other European examples will be out of the question for a simple
> reason: there is no Europe wide political party. Even in European Parliament
> they have groups wich unite parties by similarities, and the groups do not
> decide what individual parties do.
>
>
>
>  There are political parties on the european level.
>
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_political_party
> They get funding from the european parliament, even
> if they are not yet in the EP. thefunding has to stay on
> the european level and cannot be used to finance
> national member parties.
>
>    - it must have in *at least one quarter of the Member States*, one or
>    both of the following:
>
>
>    - *either* it must have *received at least 3% of the votes* cast in
>    each of those Member States at the most recent European Parliament
>    elections.
>    - *or* it must already be *represented by Members*, whether Members of
>    the European Parliament for those states, or Members of the national
>    Parliaments of those states, or Members of the regional Parliaments of those
>    states, or Members of the regional Assemblies of those states.
>
>   PPI could change some of its statutes and apply for such a status when
> we have met these criteria, but this is not yet to decide. We should be
> represented in parliaments in at least 7 european countries, and i don't see
> it happen for at least 2 or 3 year at the very optimistic (unrealistic)
> forecast.
>
> Gregory Engels
> International Coordinator
> Pirate Party of Germany
>
>  mobile: +49 172 853 44 91
> skype:gregory.engels
> jabber:dichter at jabber.piratenpartei.de
>
>
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