[pp.int.general] The conference - what went wrong; how can we do better?

Alex formless at gmail.com
Thu Apr 22 23:24:30 CEST 2010


ok no need to get into details., let's discuss all that when we have 7
strong european parties. so far it doesnt look too promissing. PP-DE
is growing slowly, SE is losing members, FI is showing some potential.
and that's pretty much it.

On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:12 AM, Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree, PPI is not intended to be a party, rather a forum for parties,
> thereby the name "Pirate Parties International".
>
> - Nicolas
>   PPI
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Justus Ršoemeth <squig at dfpx.de> wrote:
>>
>> As I wrote before, I don't think PPI should be 'used' for this, but we
>> should found a new european party for that.
>>
>> PPI has a global scope, and in the short and mid-run should be a global
>> forum for all the pirate parties to raise their voice, a forum where pirate
>> parties can meet and a place hwre people who want to start a pirate party in
>> a country where there is none could go to to get know-how and helping hands,
>> as well as start-up infrastructure (forum, maybe a wiki too?).
>> If PPI would become the European party of the pirate movement all that
>> would be in jeopardy.
>>
>> On 22.04.10 22:46, Gregory Engels wrote:
>>
>> On 22.04.2010, at 20:59, Partidul Piratilor wrote:
>>
>> . Talking about a European PPI like a political party and make comparisons
>> with other European examples will be out of the question for a simple
>> reason: there is no Europe wide political party. Even in European Parliament
>> they have groups wich unite parties by similarities, and the groups do not
>> decide what individual parties do.
>>
>> There are political parties on the european level.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_political_party
>> They get funding from the european parliament, even
>> if they are not yet in the EP. thefunding has to stay on
>> the european level and cannot be used to finance
>> national member parties.
>>
>> it must have in at least one quarter of the Member States, one or both of
>> the following:
>>
>> either it must have received at least 3% of the votes cast in each of
>> those Member States at the most recent European Parliament elections.
>> or it must already be represented by Members, whether Members of the
>> European Parliament for those states, or Members of the national Parliaments
>> of those states, or Members of the regional Parliaments of those states, or
>> Members of the regional Assemblies of those states.
>>
>> PPI could change some of its statutes and apply for such a status when we
>> have met these criteria, but this is not yet to decide. We should be
>> represented in parliaments in at least 7 european countries, and i don't see
>> it happen for at least 2 or 3 year at the very optimistic (unrealistic)
>> forecast.
>> Gregory Engels
>> International Coordinator
>> Pirate Party of Germany
>> mobile: +49 172 853 44 91
>> skype:gregory.engels
>> jabber:dichter at jabber.piratenpartei.de
>>
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