[pp.int.general] Open source and 5 years of copyright

[Andrew Norton]

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On 4/27/2010 3:23 PM, Alex wrote:
> 5 years ago there was no such garbage as youtube, or twitter. ... no
> google maps.

google Maps launched October 2004, after being bought (was called
where2) so it's older than 5 years, although Youtube was launched May
2005 (so almost exactly 5 years ago) and Twitter was March 06, so I'll
give you that.

> windowd xp x64 was a big thing 5 years ago... and Adobe Flash was
> Macromedia Flash :-)
> 
> 5 years is more than enough. 5 years, that's a LOT (in terms of both
> human life and technology).
> 5 years, that's ~1826 days. i don't know if i'll be alive in 5 years.
> 
> anyway, that's not important. what's important is that long-term
> copyrights are useless, anti-evolutionary and make no sense.
> 

If you ONLY think in terms of software, yes. One limited slice of the
whole is not the best way to make a broad plan. It's like saying
"Supercars can drive at 100mph without even leaving 3rd gear, so let's
make the minimum speed limit on motorways/autobahns 100mph"

You can NOT think just in terms of the little market niche you're
comfortable with, because it means in any sort of public policy debate,
you get taken from your comfort zone of 'software' and you will get
destroyed.

You also have to distinguish the technologies, from the works. "The
Kindle/iPad didn't exist 3 years ago, and the DaVinci code was the best
seller, so books should have 3 year copyrights"

This is what I'd say, initially, to be 'obvious', but it's because
unlike many, I'm not a software guy (I can't STAND software/coding) .I
have an electrical/electronic/mechanical engienering background, worked
in the music industry, then in TV, and my wife works in publishing (and
I'm working on a book, although Kaj has beaten me as the first Published
Pirate)

Andrew

> imho.
> 
> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Wesley Schwengle <wesley at schwengle.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> my name is Wesley Schwengle and I'm member and a candidate of the Dutch
>> pirateparty. As an active open source user I have been asked to involve
>> the Dutch open source community in the discussion and to get their
>> support. However, before I do this, I want to know what the opinion is,
>> of Richard Stallman in particular, regarding the wish of reducing
>> copyright to 5 years for commercial means. And also, do you know what
>> others within the open source community have to say about this?
>>
>> IMO, reducing the length of copyright to 5 years will kill open source
>> software as we know it, this also includes Creative commons licenses.
>>
>> People who wish to keep their work open by using an open source license
>> or CC license cannot protect their work after 5 years from being using
>> in closed source environment. One could take the Linux kernel source
>> tree of 5 years ago, incorporate this in his product, without having to
>> respect the GPL license. This could (and should) never be the goal of
>> the pirateparty and the copyright reforms it proposes.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Wesley
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