[pp.int.general] Pirate support for Wikileaks

Erik Lönroth erik.lonroth at gmail.com
Sat Dec 4 16:58:26 CET 2010


I would like to say its touching to see what a great support we have
got so far from translators of this text. But we need more, fast.

On the 7:th of December, we will make this as public as we can.

/Erik

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Jerry Weyer
<jerry.weyer at pp-international.net> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I will ask the translation taskforce to translate this message in other
> languages. We will then sent it to all our contacts so if some Pirate
> Parties want to sign and publish it they can do so.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Erik Lönroth <erik.lonroth at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Please support it.
>>
>> http://openpad.me/m9av1kOVgs
>>
>> /Erik
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Skipbox <boky.rules at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Translated into English:
>> >
>> > The international network of the Pirate Parties make their first joint
>> > statement:
>> >
>> > We, Pirate Party International, fully support Wikileaks and the people
>> > who
>> > run it now the site is in grave danger. We believe that any attempt to
>> > stop
>> > the site is an attack on democracy's core values, something we cannot
>> > accept. Only dictatorships would drive such a process and this does not
>> > belong in the democratic world.
>> >
>> > We also condemn in this statement, the direct and indirect death threats
>> > formulated by those in government. We also ask all those that are
>> > representatives of an active rule to protect those behind Wikileaks from
>> > abuse.
>> >
>> > On 4 December 2010 10:11, Erik Lönroth <erik.lonroth at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I propose a joint attempt to formulate a press-release from PPI,
>> >> translated into as many languages as possible.
>> >>
>> >> I'm not that good in english, so here is my Swedish version:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Det internationella nätverket av Piratpartiet runt om i hela världen
>> >> gör idag sitt första gemensamma uttalande."
>> >>
>> >> Vi, den samlade Piratrörelsen stödjer reservationslöst Wikileaks och
>> >> personerna som driver den nu i tider då siten är extremt hotad. Vi
>> >> anser att alla försök att stoppa siten är en attack på demokratins
>> >> kärnvärden, något vi inte kan acceptera. Bara diktaturer skulle driva
>> >> en sådan process och det hör inte hemma i den demokratiska världen.
>> >>
>> >> Vi fördömmer i samma uttalande, de direkta och indirekta mordhot som
>> >> formulerats av personer i regeringsställning. Vi ber dessutom alla
>> >> företrädare av an rättsstat att aktivt skydda privatpersonerna bakom
>> >> Wikileaks från övergrepp.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Please translate and fix it. This is a start.
>> >> /Erik
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Jay Emerson <jemers2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Dunno how to re-direct, can you tell me how?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks.
>> >> >
>> >> > - Jay
>> >> >
>> >> > 2010/12/4 Mikko Särelä <msarela at cc.hut.fi>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> For example, yes.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> By the way, you could also direct http://wikileaks.nypirates.org/ to
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> same site.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Good work!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -Mikko
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sat, 4 Dec 2010, Jay Emerson wrote:
>> >> >> > Like this?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > http://www.nypirates.org/
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 2010/12/4 Mikko Särelä <msarela at cc.hut.fi>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >       Please, also take note that in Finland the Piraattipuolue
>> >> >> > uses
>> >> >> >       wikileaks.piraattipuolue.fi. It ensures media visibility for
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >       party
>> >> >> >       supporting freedom of speech in a way that
>> >> >> > wikileaks.countrycode
>> >> >> >       does not.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >       Of course, it's better to have both. :)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >       -Mikko
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >       On Sat, 4 Dec 2010, Nicolas Sahlqvist wrote:
>> >> >> >       > Great idea, besides this PP's or private persons could
>> >> >> >       register
>> >> >> >       > wikileaks.<country>, so far I've found:
>> >> >> >       > wikileaks.ch
>> >> >> >       > wikileaks.lu
>> >> >> >       > wikileaks is.rs
>> >> >> >       >
>> >> >> >       > How about some more? ;)
>> >> >> >       >
>> >> >> >       > You can also like, twitter, write blog's, letters to
>> >> >> > editors
>> >> >> >       about Wikileaks
>> >> >> >       > being threatened etc. of being shut down by organisations
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >       governments
>> >> >> >       > etc. to enlighten it's importance in the fight for freedom
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >       speech.
>> >> >> >       >
>> >> >> >       >
>> >> >> >       > - Nicolas
>> >> >> >       >
>> >> >> >       >
>> >> >> >       > On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 3:21 AM, Rick Falkvinge
>> >> >> > (Piratpartiet)
>> >> >> >       > <rick at piratpartiet.se> wrote:
>> >> >> >       >
>> >> >> > >       > The Pirate Party of Finland just made it to newspapers
>> >> >> > > by
>> >> >> > >       offering
>> >> >> > >       > alternate mirror domains. Easy to do, large publicity
>> >> >> > effect.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Good job.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Everybody else: take note.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > I've been in lost-count-how-many-oldmedia just because we're
>> >> >> > providing
>> >> >> > > WikiLeaks with two units of server space, shielding them with
>> >> >> > > our
>> >> >> > > name. At this point, anybody standing up against censorship is
>> >> >> > getting
>> >> >> > > attention for it.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > It's the kind of attention you want to get.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > ____________________________________________________
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>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Mikko Särelä
>> >> >> >  "Power that is limited by nothing, by no laws,
>> >> >> >  that is restrained by absolutely no rules,
>> >> >> >  that rests directly on coercion" -V.I. Lenin on Communism
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ____________________________________________________
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>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Jay Emerson
>> >> >> > Administrative Officer
>> >> >> > New York Pirate Party
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "My user has information that could...that could make this a free
>> >> >> > system
>> >> >> > again! No, really! You'd have programs lined up just to use this
>> >> >> > place,
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > no MCP looking over your shoulder." - Tron
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Mikko Särelä
>> >> >>  "Power that is limited by nothing, by no laws,
>> >> >>  that is restrained by absolutely no rules,
>> >> >>  that rests directly on coercion" -V.I. Lenin on Communism
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ____________________________________________________
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>> >> >> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Jay Emerson
>> >> > Administrative Officer
>> >> > New York Pirate Party
>> >> >
>> >> > "My user has information that could...that could make this a free
>> >> > system
>> >> > again! No, really! You'd have programs lined up just to use this
>> >> > place,
>> >> > and
>> >> > no MCP looking over your shoulder." - Tron
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ____________________________________________________
>> >> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk
>> >> > pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>> >> > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
>> >> >
>> >> >
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>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> >
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