[pp.int.general] Pirate support for Wikileaks

Jerry Weyer jerry.weyer at pp-international.net
Sat Dec 4 17:13:59 CET 2010


Hi,

I will add the call for help to translate to the message we will be sending
out this evening to the Pirate Parties worldwide!

Regards,

Jerry

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Erik Lönroth <erik.lonroth at gmail.com> wrote:

> I would like to say its touching to see what a great support we have
> got so far from translators of this text. But we need more, fast.
>
> On the 7:th of December, we will make this as public as we can.
>
> /Erik
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Jerry Weyer
> <jerry.weyer at pp-international.net> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I will ask the translation taskforce to translate this message in other
> > languages. We will then sent it to all our contacts so if some Pirate
> > Parties want to sign and publish it they can do so.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Erik Lönroth <erik.lonroth at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Please support it.
> >>
> >> http://openpad.me/m9av1kOVgs
> >>
> >> /Erik
> >>
> >> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Skipbox <boky.rules at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Translated into English:
> >> >
> >> > The international network of the Pirate Parties make their first joint
> >> > statement:
> >> >
> >> > We, Pirate Party International, fully support Wikileaks and the people
> >> > who
> >> > run it now the site is in grave danger. We believe that any attempt to
> >> > stop
> >> > the site is an attack on democracy's core values, something we cannot
> >> > accept. Only dictatorships would drive such a process and this does
> not
> >> > belong in the democratic world.
> >> >
> >> > We also condemn in this statement, the direct and indirect death
> threats
> >> > formulated by those in government. We also ask all those that are
> >> > representatives of an active rule to protect those behind Wikileaks
> from
> >> > abuse.
> >> >
> >> > On 4 December 2010 10:11, Erik Lönroth <erik.lonroth at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I propose a joint attempt to formulate a press-release from PPI,
> >> >> translated into as many languages as possible.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm not that good in english, so here is my Swedish version:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Det internationella nätverket av Piratpartiet runt om i hela världen
> >> >> gör idag sitt första gemensamma uttalande."
> >> >>
> >> >> Vi, den samlade Piratrörelsen stödjer reservationslöst Wikileaks och
> >> >> personerna som driver den nu i tider då siten är extremt hotad. Vi
> >> >> anser att alla försök att stoppa siten är en attack på demokratins
> >> >> kärnvärden, något vi inte kan acceptera. Bara diktaturer skulle driva
> >> >> en sådan process och det hör inte hemma i den demokratiska världen.
> >> >>
> >> >> Vi fördömmer i samma uttalande, de direkta och indirekta mordhot som
> >> >> formulerats av personer i regeringsställning. Vi ber dessutom alla
> >> >> företrädare av an rättsstat att aktivt skydda privatpersonerna bakom
> >> >> Wikileaks från övergrepp.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Please translate and fix it. This is a start.
> >> >> /Erik
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Jay Emerson <jemers2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> > Dunno how to re-direct, can you tell me how?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > - Jay
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2010/12/4 Mikko Särelä <msarela at cc.hut.fi>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> For example, yes.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> By the way, you could also direct http://wikileaks.nypirates.org/to
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> same site.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Good work!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> -Mikko
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Sat, 4 Dec 2010, Jay Emerson wrote:
> >> >> >> > Like this?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > http://www.nypirates.org/
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > 2010/12/4 Mikko Särelä <msarela at cc.hut.fi>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >       Please, also take note that in Finland the Piraattipuolue
> >> >> >> > uses
> >> >> >> >       wikileaks.piraattipuolue.fi. It ensures media visibility
> for
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >       party
> >> >> >> >       supporting freedom of speech in a way that
> >> >> >> > wikileaks.countrycode
> >> >> >> >       does not.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >       Of course, it's better to have both. :)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >       -Mikko
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >       On Sat, 4 Dec 2010, Nicolas Sahlqvist wrote:
> >> >> >> >       > Great idea, besides this PP's or private persons could
> >> >> >> >       register
> >> >> >> >       > wikileaks.<country>, so far I've found:
> >> >> >> >       > wikileaks.ch
> >> >> >> >       > wikileaks.lu
> >> >> >> >       > wikileaks is.rs
> >> >> >> >       >
> >> >> >> >       > How about some more? ;)
> >> >> >> >       >
> >> >> >> >       > You can also like, twitter, write blog's, letters to
> >> >> >> > editors
> >> >> >> >       about Wikileaks
> >> >> >> >       > being threatened etc. of being shut down by
> organisations
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >       governments
> >> >> >> >       > etc. to enlighten it's importance in the fight for
> freedom
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> >       speech.
> >> >> >> >       >
> >> >> >> >       >
> >> >> >> >       > - Nicolas
> >> >> >> >       >
> >> >> >> >       >
> >> >> >> >       > On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 3:21 AM, Rick Falkvinge
> >> >> >> > (Piratpartiet)
> >> >> >> >       > <rick at piratpartiet.se> wrote:
> >> >> >> >       >
> >> >> >> > >       > The Pirate Party of Finland just made it to newspapers
> >> >> >> > > by
> >> >> >> > >       offering
> >> >> >> > >       > alternate mirror domains. Easy to do, large publicity
> >> >> >> > effect.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Good job.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Everybody else: take note.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > I've been in lost-count-how-many-oldmedia just because we're
> >> >> >> > providing
> >> >> >> > > WikiLeaks with two units of server space, shielding them with
> >> >> >> > > our
> >> >> >> > > name. At this point, anybody standing up against censorship is
> >> >> >> > getting
> >> >> >> > > attention for it.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > It's the kind of attention you want to get.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > ____________________________________________________
> >> >> >> > > Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> >> >> >> > > pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > Mikko Särelä
> >> >> >> >  "Power that is limited by nothing, by no laws,
> >> >> >> >  that is restrained by absolutely no rules,
> >> >> >> >  that rests directly on coercion" -V.I. Lenin on Communism
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > ____________________________________________________
> >> >> >> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> >> >> >> > pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > Jay Emerson
> >> >> >> > Administrative Officer
> >> >> >> > New York Pirate Party
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "My user has information that could...that could make this a
> free
> >> >> >> > system
> >> >> >> > again! No, really! You'd have programs lined up just to use this
> >> >> >> > place,
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > no MCP looking over your shoulder." - Tron
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Mikko Särelä
> >> >> >>  "Power that is limited by nothing, by no laws,
> >> >> >>  that is restrained by absolutely no rules,
> >> >> >>  that rests directly on coercion" -V.I. Lenin on Communism
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________
> >> >> >> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> >> >> >> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >> >> >>
> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Jay Emerson
> >> >> > Administrative Officer
> >> >> > New York Pirate Party
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "My user has information that could...that could make this a free
> >> >> > system
> >> >> > again! No, really! You'd have programs lined up just to use this
> >> >> > place,
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > no MCP looking over your shoulder." - Tron
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ____________________________________________________
> >> >> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> >> >> > pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >> >> >
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> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> ____________________________________________________
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> >> >> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >> >
> >> >
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> >
> >
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> >
> >
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