[pp.int.general] Pirate support for Wikileaks

[Antonio Quartulli]

The donation via PayPal is totally blocked due to the fact that PayPal
has suspended their account for policy violation:
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/paypal_announces_it_will_no_longer_handle_wikileak.php

On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 02:22:52PM -0800, Aftermath wrote:
> Wikileaks does what it does for Profit.
> 
> I say this because julian assange is the only one who has access to
> the paypal donation account.
> 
> No one knows how much is donated except for him.
> 
> 
> Wikileaks likes transparency for everyone except themselves.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cryptome is way cooler.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Forgot the link to Wikipedia:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juma_Khan_Hamdard
> >
> > - Nicolas
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Mixing the organisation Wikileaks with the assault charge of Assange is
> >> not the best of ideas and treating it differently could indicate that we
> >> don't really believe in the principle of innocent until proven guilty..
> >> I tend to think it is important to make a statement in support for the
> >> work Wikileaks does at the moment considering how it is threatened. We could
> >> mention other organisations that works on similar goals as you mention, but
> >> that part of the message would probably not be noticed when all media talks
> >> about is Wikileaks.
> >> There are also other ways to support leaks, by actively spreading leaks on
> >> the net. I seem to have this new hobby of reading SECRET cables from
> >> Wikileaks and the corrupt governor (Juma Khan Hamdard) of the Paktia
> >> province in Afghanistan caught my attention so I updated his Wikipedia page
> >> with the following sentences:
> >> "In May 2007 he was forced to resign as governor of Jowzjan when thousands
> >> demonstrated against him. Forces under his command shot at demonstrators in
> >> the Uzbek town of Shibirghan, killing thirteen and injuring more than
> >> thirty."
> >> "He is currently under investigations for soliciting bribes from
> >> contractors by having them arrested at job sites and held until the bribes
> >> were paid"
> >> And referenced to the Guardian quoting the cable from Wikileaks:
> >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/241681
> >> I have to say that it was a very satisfactory to save those changes! ;)
> >>
> >> - Nicolas
> >>
> >> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Amelia Andersdotter <teirdes at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 4 December 2010 19:03, Erik Lönroth <erik.lonroth at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> ... and would you support something that adds a few words about the
> >>>> "whistle-blowers" ?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> If anything should be supported it's whistle-blowers. And it is my
> >>> position as a Swedish Pirate Party member and an incumbent Member of the
> >>> European Parliament not to support a text that blindly supports the, eh.
> >>> Defendant or plaintiff? Defendant I guess, in a case that has not even gone
> >>> to court. Technically, there can't even be defendant or plaintiffs in this
> >>> case because they are only conducting a preliminary investigation.
> >>>
> >>> Gosh, people are really sheep when they fall for media manipulation,
> >>> aren't they?
> >>>
> >>> /a
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I removed that from my original text. I would not mind adding it.
> >>>>
> >>>> /Erik
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Erik Lönroth <erik.lonroth at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > Amelia, is it your position as a representative of the Pirate Party in
> >>>> > Sweden and (soon) Member of the European Parliament not to support
> >>>> > this text?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > http://openpad.me/m9av1kOVgs
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > /Erik
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Amelia Andersdotter
> >>>> > <teirdes at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On 4 December 2010 12:17, Mikulas.Ferjencik
> >>>> >> <Mikulas.Ferjencik at seznam.cz>
> >>>> >> wrote:
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> I would like to note, that PPI is not supposed to issue Press
> >>>> >>> releases, so
> >>>> >>> it is more appropriate to prepare a press release, which can
> >>>> >>> separate PPs
> >>>> >>> endorse. It would also be good to include what do respective PPs do
> >>>> >>> to
> >>>> >>> support wikileaks.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> The Swedish Pirate Party and myself do not support Wikileaks as such,
> >>>> >> but
> >>>> >> leaking and leaking services in general (including OpenLeaks,
> >>>> >> cryptome and
> >>>> >> the newly formed Serbian project for leaks). We would like to see an
> >>>> >> inclusive statement that considers the benefit over whistleblowers in
> >>>> >> general, and not a specific service for this purpose.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Wikileaks can certainly be exemplified, but it is important that they
> >>>> >> do not
> >>>> >> get to represent the entire leaking community, and especially that
> >>>> >> they do
> >>>> >> not overshadow the brave men and women who make sure the leaks get
> >>>> >> out there
> >>>> >> in the first place.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Amelia Andersdotter
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>>
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Antonio Quartulli

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Ernesto "Che" Guevara