[pp.int.general] About PP Russia

[Fedor Khod'kov]

Boris Turovskiy <tourovski at gmail.com> writes:

>> There would be nothing wrong if PPR would go on negotiations with
>> authors or their representatives; but on such negotiations PPR should
>> advocate on readers' behalf, not try to make itself authors' advocate
>> without even asking authors whether they want PPR to be their advocate
>> or not.
>>    
> Yes, that's exactly the problem I, Stanislav and many others have with
> your position - namely that you consider the PP to be a special
> interest group or advocates of users and readers. You call them "the
> public", thus implying that authors are not part of the public and are
> indeed opposed to it.

Authors read, listen to music and use software.  They're definitely part
of the public and entitled to all the rights that all readers, listeners
and users entitled to.  On the other hand, copyright is special
privilege which authors have and general public doesn't have; it is not
public right.

> Moreover, even if we take on the point of view that it's the interest
> of the "public" (in the sense defined above) we should be protecting,
> it still doesn't lead to your conclusions about what we should be
> calling for, as there are two partially conflicting interests in play
> here: one is the wish to have free access to culture and knowledge
> (which would indeed lead to a call for removing all and any copyright
> restrictions) while the other is the wish to be getting new cultural
> works (which means that there has to be some incentives for those
> creating them).

Our disagreement about what we should or should not be calling for is
not the problem; disagreements can be discussed.  The problem is your
willingness to believe the apocalyptic myths spread by people who want
copyright to be extended as much as possible.  If members of pirate
party view themselves as the last defenders of software industry, music
and literature, and their opponents as those who are going to destroy
economics and maybe the world itself, if they scare themselves with
nasty consequences of refusing to get copyright holders the power
(without taking the burden to prove them), they naturally won't listen
to the opponents; they will put ridiculous slogans in their mouth.
-- 
Fedor.