[pp.int.general] Obama's support for his election campaign

[tyler durden]

>>History shows that this is exactly the kind of move that occurs right before people decide to commit to a violent resolution."

History shows busting a college kid for pirating music is going to
result in riots in the streets? How about all people who get locked up
for decades because of an institutionally racist war on drugs? People
tear shit up all the time around the world and even in this country
but history shows it hasn't been something like this yet. (think when
Oscar Grant was murdered by police in oakland, or when the G20 was
held in Pittsburgh a few months ago).

> Civil disobedience is not an activity which a political party is allowed to suggest, due to the laws being what they are in the US. If it did, it couldn't be a political party any more--it would become every bit the criminal organization that the MAFIAA is doing.

A movement succeeds by utilizing a diversity of tactics. The civil
rights movement showed that there is an appropriate time and place to
use voting, petitions, peaceful marches, sit down strikes, and yes
even riots such as when MLK Jr was assassinated. So yes, civil
disobedience has proven to be effective, necessary, and is an
essential part of our democracy. Should the PP be actively engaged in
this? No, we're a political party as you said. "We gather to change
the laws, not break them". We don't have to do it, but I still dig it.

> The issues of copyright, patent, privacy, governmental transparency, and free speech are all at the core of every issue you've brought up. Thanks for your input, the counterpoint is appreciated, but you really aren't as informed as you believe you are.

I'm communicating the irrelevancy(real or perceived) of the U.S.
Pirate Party's platform to the struggles of everyday people. I'm
getting this from talking with people who are already involved in
labor unions, anti-war activist groups, and environmental justice
organizations. There's one thing that we do see eye to eye on is that
we see that there is no hope with the existing two party system. So
the USPP's job is convince the angry masses to join up with us, but
who the hell are we? We have positions on some core issues like free
speech and transparency (what political party isn't?) and the only
area where we have a more enlightened analysis are copyright issues.
Everything else we're taking the 'Anything that is not covered by
USPP's platform is left up to the individual candidate to make their
own position'. Sounds like a great way to answer some of the questions
people want answers to most - a single payer healthcare system, an end
to US military involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan, a right to fair
housing and employment, privatization of public services and a
corporate control in general. I've got a question, why have the
majority of people involved with the USPP and shown interest in our
politics are privileged white men who are into computers and have
little to no activist experience. Why should people listen to us?

I understand that you are in a bad personal living situation Ray and I
know both of us want what's best for the Party. But honestly, you
haven't been around to talk to us about what we should or shouldn't be
doing and if you had a critique or suggestion about what we should be
covering you know you could have communicated such through the normal
USPP channels (website, IRC, forums, mailing list, whatever). Don't
get mad at us about it.