[pp.int.general] Women Pirates project

[Bogomil "Bogo" Shopov]

There are a lot of countries that never let a woman to do politics. This is
the idea of the project - to increase women's visibility in our movement
not to create a "gheto" or something.


Bogo

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Amelia Andersdotter <teirdes at gmail.com>wrote:

> On 3 May 2010 07:46, Eric Priezkalns <eric.priezkalns at pirateparty.org.uk>
> wrote:
> > I feel this is a mistaken way to deal with a symptom, not a root cause.
> > Yes, there are too few women in the pirate movement.  There are also too
> few
> > older people, too few poor, too few ethnic minorities.
> > These people are not in the pirate movement not because of a failure to
> > 'mainstream' or 'empower' or any other jargon words that might be spoken
> by
> > a New York Professor of Sociology.  They are not in the pirate movement
> > because the pirate movement makes too little effort to appeal to them.
>  In
> > short, we do not try to explain our policies in ways that appeal beyond a
> > audience that is predominantly young, male, white and reasonably
> privileged.
> > The worst thing we could take is to take women, or any other group, and
> > place them in a 'special interest' faction.  Instead of modifying the
> policy
> > message to make it more appealing to a wider audience, they will just be
> > pushed into creating 'special interest' policies.  I dislike the idea of
> > that intrinsically, but more importantly, that approach never seems to
> work
> > in politics.  Voters can see through it and it does not appeal to them.
>  In
> > short, if you cannot come up with a political philosophy with a core
> message
> > that is appealing to women or any other subset of society, you cannot
> > address that by creating specialist policies around the edges.  People
> can
> > innately see the special interest policies do not fit with the philosophy
> > and so become sceptical about them, and rightly so.
>
> Bullshit.
>
> Voters don't want to vote for a party that doesn't seem inclusive.
>
> > If we want more women etc in the movement, the right place to begin is
> not
> > by creating a ghetto for them.  The right place is to look at ourselves
> and
> > ask what is in our behaviour that is a barrier to inclusion.  It is not
> hard
> > for me to see examples of behaviour that leads to exclusion from the
> pirate
> > movement.
>
> The "ghetto" could also act as a group for women who can't be arsed
> waiting for the non-sexist society to emerge to adapt to and see
> through male behavioural flaws.
>
> Women tend not to be that interested in party politics to begin with,
> but one thing that has been working in the past is actually creating
> women's groups inside the movement. Uh. How to say. It's a problem on
> the male side of the story, with behaviour and all, but it's also a
> universal problem and a female problem that segregation is assumed.
>
> In fact, even looking at the way we raise children, you will notice
> how children are separated quite early on. It makes sense for women
> and men to have their own groups - or to tear down the sexist barriers
> hindering the way to the future! The question is whether the Pirate
> Party is the right arena for anarchofeminism or not.
>
> /amelia
>
> >
> > From: "Bogomil \"Bogo\" Shopov" <bogo at piratskapartia.bg>
> > Date: 2 May 2010 12:26:34 BST
> > To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
> > <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
> > Subject: [pp.int.general] Women Pirates project
> > Reply-To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
> > <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
> >
> >
> > Hey again,
> > Here is some ideas and tasks for a project called WOPI. I am looking
> forward
> > to see you participating.
> > http://int.piratenpartei.de/User:Bogomil/Projects/WOPI
> >
> >
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>
>
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> Amelia Andersdotter
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