[pp.int.general] The Piratebay

[Andrew Norton]

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On 5/18/2010 11:11 AM, Aleksandar Blagojevic wrote:
> 
> Hello Andrew,
> 
> What about braking the law intentionally in order to wake up the law
> regulators?! That is common practice in US I guess(?).
> 
> So, defending yourself on court could be a epic win if you just "show" the
> real pirate statistics? But I know, you will be buried by the giant lawyer
> hired by the big company. This situation always makes me to think about flaws
> in US legal systems... -> more money u have more justice u can buy...
> 
> and not to flame but to conclude:
> In my humble opinion the idea is to mobilize people to make "digital but civil
> disobedience acts". At least I am doing it in Serbia. And I do it in every
> country I visit and call everyone to do the same!!!
> 
> and yes, US democracy works selectively...
> 

It's not so simple. The Federal Election Commission (FEC) would just
either reject the party when it came to get the final registration, or
yank it if it already has it, ending things as a political party.
Alternatively, the IRS could yank the tax status, freezing the funds
(and thus the rest of the stuff) There's no need for a court case. Of
course, I'm no lawyer, and in the US party, dealing with this stuff is
the operations officer responsibility (that meant first Ray, then Glenn,
who still holds the post now) to deal with and understand this stuff.

Again, civil disobedience means breaking the law, which in the US
political parties can't do, or support. Sucks, but them's the rules that
have ot be abided by.

Andrew

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> Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 4:44:32 PM, you wrote:
> 
> On 5/18/2010 10:31 AM, quemener.yves at free.fr wrote:
>>>> The legalization of non-commercial filesharing is a common reclamation of so many pirate parties... 
>>>> Which of them do not endorse this ?
> 
> Ah, were it so simple.
> 
> In the Us, for instance, political parties can not condone or endorse
> the breaking of laws. They can say "This law needs to be changed", but
> thats all. It makes things a legal grey area, especially with TPB (who
> under US law is (probably - IANAL!) a strong case for vicarious
> infringement at least.
> 
> At least its not as confusing as say the pot issue, where it's legal for
> medical purposes in some states, but flat out illegal federally.
> 
> US Election/campaign stuff is really messed up though. Thats why, 3.5
> years after the party was formed, there's still paperwork in process.
> 
> The US is actually pretty undemocratic when it comes to democracy...
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
>>>>
>>>> ----- "Jerry Weyer" <jerry.weyer at pp-international.net> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I just want to note, that not every Pirate Party might want to be
>>>>> associated with The Pirate Bay! I don't have any concrete example, but
>>>>> we should not suppose that every Pirate Party wants to see its logo on
>>>>> the Pirate Bay.
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>> Jerry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Aleksandar Blagojevic <
>>>>> piratska.partija.srbije at gmail.com > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we should prioritize electoral races!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Wesley,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 4:13:50 PM, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wesley> On 05/18/2010 04:09 PM, Daniel Hertz wrote:
>>>>>>> Why not all th parties? A map of some sort?
>>>>>
>>>>> Wesley> I think the ones with elections have a priority. But be my
>>>>> guest to put
>>>>> Wesley> a localized PP banner for every country. Fine with me :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wesley> Cheers,
>>>>> Wesley> Wesley
>>>>> Wesley> ____________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> Wesley> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
>>>>> Wesley> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>>>>> Wesley>
>>>>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Aleksandar Blagojevic
>>>>> Leader of Serbian Pirate Party and board member of PPI
>>>>> http://piratskapartija.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ____________________________________________________
>>>>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
>>>>> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>>>>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
>>>>>
>>>>> Weyer Jerry
>>>>> PPI Co-Chairman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ____________________________________________________
>>>>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
>>>>> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>>>>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
>>>> ____________________________________________________
>>>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
>>>> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>>>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
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